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發表於 2008-7-18 01:14:44 | 顯示全部樓層
原帖由 lkw1819 於 2008-7-18  12:08 AM 發表


唔知呀....
我唔評論喇,我覺得自己近排d言論好過火
唔想次次都要奧古大人提醒我收口.....


其實仲講咁耐做咩jar?  講左成頁都唔係討論真假波衫, 你真係收口啦!
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發表於 2008-7-18 01:51:30 | 顯示全部樓層
原帖由 70869413 於 2008-7-17  10:43 PM 發表

It is quite interesting to see what email address that ONE new member with ONE single post use to register...
Might not be real but still... interesting


Let bygones be bygones, mate.
There's no point to continue pinpointing certain members in any way.

As far as I'm concerned, it's theory vs actual practice.
Let me clarify that I do not like the kind of ambiguity that exists on shirt description, on ebay and elsewhere. The fact of the matter is, it's been a common practice in ebay for a long time, and it has been for a reason. In addition to the reasons already mentioned by Kin and Louis, I'd like to add a couple more.

We all know it's best to specify a shirt as match worn, player spec., etc, but in reality shirts are not often specified in such a way.

This is because it's hard to tell whether some shirts are really worn or not.
For one thing, only a few sources provide buyers with COA and/or details of how the shirts were obtained; for another, it's only common for match shirts to be traded many times among collectors and their specification to become untraceable in the process.
When you get a shirt with signs of having been used/washed, what will you make of it? The fact is, you can never rule out the possibility that it was indeed worn by the player.

For these shirts, you can call them "match issued shirts" by theory, but in fact this could be inaccurate, because of the way people understand the terms.
I'm sure many buyers do not, when they read the words 'match issued' in an auction, think of the possibility of the shirt having been worn.
If you say, "if you're not sure, don't put down 'match worn/issued'... play safe and tag it 'match unworn'", that would not be an accurate description either... people looking for 'match unworn' shirts may want those that are 100% new and never been used.

One thing to bear in mind is that, serious buyers know that real match worn shirts don't come cheap. As they spend thousands of dollars on a match worn shirt, they tend to be more cautious examining the shirt and the title alone may not cause real confusion to them. This is, I reckon, the reason why many auctions are (still) entitled in such a way.

Personally, I treat 'match worn/issued' as a tag for shirts that are at least match unworn and possibly match worn. For those shirts, I would not be surprised to see them look like having been used/washed. Unless the shirt comes from a reputable seller, a COA and/or signs of match, I don't consider it a match worn one, regardless of what the title of the auction says.


For members who stick with clear definition of match shirts, I think you have your case... I'm sure if every shirt is tagged accurately, the whole ebay or shirt-selling business will be wonderful, and especially so to newbies.
I'm just stating again that this has been a common practice for a long time, and the idea -- or mere implication -- that someone who 'plays by the rules' is out to confuse or even cheat people with nonsense titles and descriptions can be rather offensive.
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發表於 2008-7-18 03:51:11 | 顯示全部樓層
原帖由 EB5 於 2008-7-18  01:51 AM 發表
Let bygones be bygones, mate.
There's no point to continue pinpointing certain members in any way.

As far as I'm concerned, it's theory vs actual practice.
Let me clarify that I do not like the kin ...

It is not about certain member, but about auction titles in general.
I have said what I want to say so I am not going to repeat.
I just want to add, it is much more pleasant to read simple titles like these:

http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmattowls

Well those might be way too simple.
Check out the the following auctions, the titles are simple and precise and informative.

http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZawaykit_uk

[ 本帖最後由 70869413 於 2008-7-18  04:01 AM 編輯 ]
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發表於 2008-7-18 04:10:24 | 顯示全部樓層
原帖由 奧古 於 2008-7-18  12:14 AM 發表
請大家不要離題


<<假野調查組!>>


我地都幾貼題ah~~~ 調查緊球衣版 假member and 假post. LOL
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發表於 2008-7-18 10:45:44 | 顯示全部樓層
原帖由 70869413 於 2008-7-18  03:51 AM 發表

It is not about certain member, but about auction titles in general.
I have said what I want to say so I am not going to repeat.
I just want to add, it is much more pleasant to read simple titles lik ...


I was just saying that finding out who used double accounts, which I meant by 'pinpointing certain members', is essentially meaningless and off-topic.

Though I have to say, the long discussion that took place wouldn't have been that long if both sides had not felt pinpointed at some point too...

I, and I'm sure many others here, appreciate the way awaykit title his auctions.

The only problem, once more, is that his shirts are clearly plain stock while many other shirts cannot be titled in such a safe way.
The case I've been making is that putting match worn/issued not only help buyers locate their auctions easily, it also addresses the ambiguity that originates from the shirt itself.
This is because sometimes even sellers cannot guarantee a shirt is match worn or unworn, and it has nothing to do with being cheated by the previous sellers and inflicting the loss onto the next buyers.

[ 本帖最後由 EB5 於 2008-7-18  10:47 AM 編輯 ]
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發表於 2008-7-18 10:49:31 | 顯示全部樓層
都係唔好要奧古難做啦
都99頁囉
或者等版主重新開個「假野調查組! #3」啦......
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發表於 2008-7-18 13:15:19 | 顯示全部樓層
plz stop typing those essays if u want our 'argument' RIP.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI ... :MEWA:IT&ih=002
real?
i have a feeling these fake namesets from thailand/singapore/malaysia is flooding the online auction market.
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發表於 2008-7-19 01:24:35 | 顯示全部樓層
請問這web site的球衣是否真的???
http://www.eurofootballgear.com/default.aspx
我見佢d球衣好平, 唔知係真定假, 但係佢load得好慢
thx
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發表於 2008-7-20 00:56:32 | 顯示全部樓層
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發表於 2008-7-20 20:31:11 | 顯示全部樓層
原帖由 Paloschi 於 2008-7-20  12:56 AM 發表
http://hk.f1.page.auctions.yahoo ... =&.r=1159625132

請問呢件是咪真野


伊蒂哈德...雖然我唔識分,
~用常理去諗,印老番既老番商,
會COPY十隻荷李活既大片,
都唔會去COPY一隻港產片...

你要真既伊蒂哈德都已經難,
你要假既伊蒂哈德...我諗你要去中東搵~
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發表於 2008-7-20 23:42:18 | 顯示全部樓層
原帖由 lokan 於 2008-7-20  08:31 PM 發表


伊蒂哈德...雖然我唔識分,
~用常理去諗,印老番既老番商,
會COPY十隻荷李活既大片,
都唔會去COPY一隻港產片...

你要真既伊蒂哈德都已經難,
你要假既伊蒂哈德...我諗你要去中東搵~ ...

有道理

但係個sponsor同字都好難搵
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發表於 2008-7-20 23:57:56 | 顯示全部樓層
原帖由 lokan 於 2008-7-20  08:31 PM 發表

你要真既伊蒂哈德都已經難,
你要假既伊蒂哈德...我諗你要去中東搵~ ...



我鍾意這個reply~ hahahahha
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發表於 2008-7-21 09:24:21 | 顯示全部樓層
原帖由 lokan 於 2008-7-20  08:31 PM 發表


伊蒂哈德...雖然我唔識分,
~用常理去諗,印老番既老番商,
會COPY十隻荷李活既大片,
都唔會去COPY一隻港產片...

你要真既伊蒂哈德都已經難,
你要假既伊蒂哈德...我諗你要去中東搵~ ...



佢所有貨都係淘寶入嘅
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發表於 2008-7-21 10:46:30 | 顯示全部樓層
請幫忙睇睇真定假,THANKS

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發表於 2008-7-21 21:00:14 | 顯示全部樓層
原帖由 CPK 於 2008-7-21  10:46 AM 發表
請幫忙睇睇真定假,THANKS

7589975900


應該係真啦, d 字就唔知啦
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發表於 2008-7-22 11:09:26 | 顯示全部樓層
http://hk.f1.page.auctions.yahoo ... 6117025?u=gordonkhw
REAL??係 MATCH ISSUE 定係咩?? THANKS
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發表於 2008-7-22 11:44:37 | 顯示全部樓層
原帖由 CPK 於 2008-7-21  10:46 AM 發表

請幫忙睇睇真定假,THANKS

7589975900


hope this helps

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發表於 2008-7-22 12:24:49 | 顯示全部樓層
http://hk.f1.page.auctions.yahoo ... 267805?r=1072735273
請問是真衫真字嗎??thankyou!
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發表於 2008-7-22 12:25:55 | 顯示全部樓層
原帖由 lkw1819 於 2008-7-21  09:24 AM 發表



佢所有貨都係淘寶入嘅

Bingo!~Bro u always see Taobao too?
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發表於 2008-7-22 17:43:48 | 顯示全部樓層
原帖由 uar 於 2008-7-22  11:44 AM 發表


hope this helps

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k226/mansunalvis/euro%20clubs/Serie%20A%20and%20B/IMG_0421.jpg

即係真??就咁睇好似一樣....anyway...thank you so much
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