cani 發表於 2007-1-25 23:31:56

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格黎個....香港's論壇...d人係度嘈: 法比係賣arsenal青訓

跟據呢度的定義:

自家青訓球員(Homegrown) 定義

買番黎既球員 ,21歲前係你間club 留低左三年就算<.............from頂置post

但果度d人就嘈: 法比唔係arsenal青訓,只是買番黎的球員

最後攪到兩幫人水火不融

但我雖然是玩開fm的,但都覺得法比唔係arsenal青訓
SI 個自家青訓球員(Homegrown) 定義 係賣FA official 認可架?

[ 本帖最後由 cani 於 2007-1-2511:34 PM 編輯 ]

HinsSaviola 發表於 2007-1-25 23:35:10

又黎呢D......
實有人嘈...

Keith 發表於 2007-1-26 01:02:16

The issue of local trained, homegrown players is an issue that has come to prominence in recent years.

UEFA has expressed concern that some clubs are not training enough of their own players. New measures introduced by UEFA have the objective of creating a better balance in domestic competitions, preventing clubs from simply hoarding players in squads and creating a system whereby local trained players would be given a greater opportunity to play regularly.

Consequently, UEFA identified a number of perceived problem areas within the European game. These included a lack of incentive in player training, problems for national teams, lack of local regional identity in many club teams, lack of competitive balance and over-stocked squads. The proposals are not based on nationality-related issues, as UEFA can not violate EU legislation on, for example, the freedom of movement of labour across borders.

In 2004, UEFA launched a consultation process on the issue, and emerged with a set of proposals that were approved by the broad spectrum of the European football family.

From the 2006/07 season, the 'A' list that teams submit for UEFA club competitions which is limited to 25 players will include at least two places on this list for players trained by the club's own football academy and two further places for players trained either by the club's academy or by other clubs from within the same association. Further changes are planned for future seasons, while UEFA is also recommending that its member associations introduce similar measures at domestic level.


Definitions
A club-trained player is defined as a player who has been registered for a minimum of three seasons with the club between the age of 15 and 21, whereas an association-trained player is a player who has been registered for at least three seasons by the club or by other clubs affiliated to the same association of the said club between the age of 15 and 21.

係UEFA唔係FA:icon032:

cani 發表於 2007-1-26 01:13:33

原帖由 Keith 於 2007-1-2601:02 AM 發表
The issue of local trained, homegrown players is an issue that has come to prominence in recent years.

UEFA has expressed concern that some clubs are not training enough of their own players. Ne ...
錦發比仔算唔算arsenal青訓

Keith 發表於 2007-1-26 01:14:57

原帖由 cani 於 2007-1-2601:13 AM 發表

錦發比仔算唔算arsenal青訓
Definitions
A club-trained player is defined as a player who has been registered for a minimum of three seasons with the club between the age of 15 and 21, whereas an association-trained player is a player who has been registered for at least three seasons by the club or by other clubs affiliated to the same association of the said club between the age of 15 and 21.

睇清楚先問

cani 發表於 2007-1-26 01:16:43

原帖由 Keith 於 2007-1-2601:14 AM 發表

Definitions
A club-trained player is defined as a player who has been registered for a minimum of three seasons with the club between the age of 15 and 21, whereas an association-trained player...
club-trained and association-trained player=青訓球員?

安素 發表於 2007-1-26 09:18:55

法比好似係0係巴塞買返黎的~

asian 發表於 2007-1-26 11:00:49

原帖由 cani 於 2007-1-2509:16 AM 發表

club-trained and association-trained player=青訓球員?

club-trained 自家球會三年
association-trained 在同一FA 三年

KML113 發表於 2007-1-26 12:30:38

其實定義已好clear囉...根本唔值得argue

cani 發表於 2007-1-26 12:49:46

原帖由 KML113 於 2007-1-2612:30 PM 發表
其實定義已好clear囉...根本唔值得argue
果度投票都大部份認為法比係巴塞青訓,唔係arsenal的
他們的論點是: 兩個英文club-trained and association-trained player不表示 [青訓球員]

carlosckl 發表於 2007-1-26 14:15:10

上面已經講左係 UEFA Definitions, for UEFA 賽事的.
其實每個 FA 都可有自己的 Definitions.
不過球迷的 Definitions 多數係 :
球員到左 15 歲簽第一份學徒合約的球會, 佢就係果個球會的青訓.
所以大部份人都會話法比係巴塞青訓, 但 UEFA 話佢係Arsenal青訓
因為 法比係11-Sep-2003 簽入Arsenal, 依家 over 3 年, 而佢又未夠21歲.
所以UEFA 話佢係Arsenal青訓.

ken809 發表於 2007-1-26 15:15:19

法比係買返黎係啱
但根據UEFA既definition
佢21歲前係阿仙奴train完3年就可以叫阿仙奴既青訓
有乜好拗:o

cani 發表於 2007-1-26 16:11:45

原帖由 ken809 於 2007-1-2603:15 PM 發表
法比係買返黎係啱
但根據UEFA既definition
佢21歲前係阿仙奴train完3年就可以叫阿仙奴既青訓
有乜好拗:o
你去香港討論區..足球區看下就知道
post 好像被ban了...真係大件事...

[ 本帖最後由 cani 於 2007-1-2604:17 PM 編輯 ]

kevinYip2 發表於 2007-1-26 16:51:37

為甘小事罵戰?

cani 發表於 2007-1-26 17:06:47

原帖由 kevinYip2 於 2007-1-2604:51 PM 發表
為甘小事罵戰?

之前有
但原來今次果度[大清洗]唔關青訓d post事....
死因: 挑戰權威

[ 本帖最後由 cani 於 2007-1-2605:08 PM 編輯 ]

舒利亞 發表於 2007-1-26 20:24:26

阿仙奴青訓:icon112:

hehe0114 發表於 2007-1-26 20:35:09

其實係阿仙奴青訓又好
巴塞青訓又好

兩個講法我都覺得成立
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