acm_kaka 發表於 2008-4-7 21:01:28

原帖由 孫中謝拉特.奧雲 於 2008-4-705:41 PM 發表 http://www.hkcmforum.com/images/common/back.gif
歐聯用保頓作客皇馬輸3-2
主場一度領先4:1
比佢追到4:3出局

開始搵到防守方法 , 有機會再講

有一個幾易改善呢個陣防守既方法
就係兩閘man mark 前鋒
佢地拉左去中場其實冇咩野做
一失左控球權剛好係中間對住兩個前鋒,man mark 佢地最方便快捷

可能你會驚呢個時候對方d翼會衝上來,但其實冇咩威脅
因為剛失波既時候佢地往往仲係自己後半場
自己兩個DM會主動走去搶波
就算唔成功都有中堅走出黎補位
因為對方前鋒已經俾雙閘mark緊左
所以最好將兩個dc轉返zonal marking

所有野都配合得好好
所以創呢個陣果個人真係可以話係經過深思熟慮

[ 本帖最後由 acm_kaka 於 2008-4-709:04 PM 編輯 ]

holdq 發表於 2008-4-7 22:17:00

估唔到大家都有獨到見解嘛!!HKCM有大家就仲有D樂趣喇!!
即刻試下大家既辦法先!!

baggiochan 發表於 2008-4-8 11:35:00

原帖由 hokimkim 於 2008-4-705:52 PM 發表 http://hkcmforum.com/images/common/back.gif


除了尊重原創,其實現在不是拉線做成防守的大問題,而是防守設定。兩閘拉線去防中,我試過,也分別不大。

可能我closing down 拉前左少少, 所以拉線去防中已經ok

Lian 發表於 2008-4-8 13:17:04

原帖由 acm_kaka 於 2008-4-709:01 PM 發表 http://hkcm.hkehost.net/images/common/back.gif


有一個幾易改善呢個陣防守既方法
就係兩閘man mark 前鋒
佢地拉左去中場其實冇咩野做
一失左控球權剛好係中間對住兩個前鋒,man mark 佢地最方便快捷

可能你會驚呢個時候對方d翼會衝上來,但其實冇咩威脅
因為剛失 ...
佢地都係去做駁腳je...

buddylau1024 發表於 2008-4-8 18:01:07

我用V2個TACTIC,有個弱點,就係逢AWAY對弱隊例和,仲試過LIVERPOOL FULL TEAM AWAY 對 PLYMOUTH 輸波,真係有冇搞錯:icon066:

唔知點解,AWAY既話,ATTACK會差左好多(唔知關唔關個PITCH DIMENSION事),HOME MATCH SHOT 有20個,AWAY只係得7、8個。

holdq 發表於 2008-4-8 23:45:03

發現原創者出左V2.2,大家可以試下

what are the different original v2 with v2.1 and v2.2 ?
i tweak defence area of v2 tactic and save it to v2.1 and v2.2
v2.1 and v2.2 are same, the difference is v2.1 Defemsive Line = 10 And v2.2 = 14

for tips :
team talk is very...very...very important.
if your player make alot shots from quality chance and not score... its your team talk sometimes.
or ai scores easily......its your team talk too sometimes
or your defender so lazy.......
read "Wolfsong's guide to team talks - Fm08", but 8.0.2 patch slightly difference with previous patch, some point not work in 8.0.2 patch.... IMO

OI
- DML/ML/AML : tight marking always, tackling hard if bravery 15- (<= 17), show on foot right foot
- DMR/MR/AMR : tight marking always, tackling hard if bravery 15-, show on foot left foot
- DM/MC/AMC : tight marking always, tackling hard if bravery 15-
- FL/FR/SC : tight marking always, tackling hard if bravery 17-
- injured player : tackling hard

Players
- GK : buy an excellent GK if possible, these tactics is an attacking formation, defending is the most difficult job
- All Defender (DL/DR/DC): use fast (15+ pace and acc) and high workrate (15+), and other excelent defending attribute if possible. i use strong DL/DR rather than skillfull DL/DR
- DMC pos : use good defending one, i put good defending player rather than good crossing player
- use AMC on 3AMC pos, dont use FC or winger.....they wont work well. retrain them
- Left AMC : high finishing, long shot, flair, decision, technique
- center AMC : put very creative player with high passing, technique, decision, flair
- SC : on v2.1 and v2.2 my striker score alot more then my left AMC, any striker (tall or fast) with good attribute will work well. ppm recomended : places shots, gets into opp area, curls ball

Others
- change your DR/DL if their stamina 80%-
- change OI immediately when the ai change their player or formation

buddylau1024 發表於 2008-4-9 08:50:25

原帖由 buddylau1024 於 2008-4-806:01 PM 發表 http://hkcmforum.com/images/common/back.gif
我用V2個TACTIC,有個弱點,就係逢AWAY對弱隊例和,仲試過LIVERPOOL FULL TEAM AWAY 對 PLYMOUTH 輸波,真係有冇搞錯:icon066:

唔知點解,AWAY既話,ATTACK會差左好多(唔知關唔關個PITCH DIMENSION事),HOME MATCH SHOT 有20個,AWAY ...
除此之外,我發現好多入波都係比對面龍面撲出之後執雞既,唔知大家有冇呢?

孫中謝拉特.奧雲 發表於 2008-4-9 09:34:43

原帖由 holdq 於 2008-4-823:45 發表 http://www.hkcmforum.com/images/common/back.gif
發現原創者出左V2.2,大家可以試下
- change OI immediately when the ai change their player or formation
用咩陣都好~都係呢句最實際:icon111:

addison8406 發表於 2008-4-11 12:30:40

原帖由 holdq 於 2008-4-811:45 PM 發表 http://www.hkcmforum.com/images/common/back.gif
發現原創者出左V2.2,大家可以試下

what are the different original v2 with v2.1 and v2.2 ?
i tweak defence area of v2 tactic and save it to v2.1 and v2.2
v2.1 and v2.2 are same, the difference is v2.1 D ...


等我今晚試下先…

andres_tabris 發表於 2008-4-11 12:41:05

原帖由 孫中謝拉特.奧雲 於 2008-4-909:34 AM 發表 http://hkcmforum.com/images/common/back.gif

用咩陣都好~都係呢句最實際:icon111:

幾時分享你改善防守既方法呀:icon101:

vetefan2 發表於 2008-4-11 13:13:08

原帖由 孫中謝拉特.奧雲 於 2008-4-909:34 AM 發表 http://www.hkcmforum.com/images/common/back.gif

用咩陣都好~都係呢句最實際:icon111:

其實真係唔知show on foot 點set......自己踢波都冇留意呢樣野:icon101:

ryantang 發表於 2008-4-11 18:58:59

DML/ML/AML : tight marking always, tackling hard if bravery 15- (<= 17), show on foot right foot

點解左閘要用右腳架人?

右去左都唔難搵,左去右真係好少有~~

arlok 發表於 2008-4-12 00:01:51

原帖由 ryantang 於 2008-4-1106:58 PM 發表 http://www.hkcmforum.com/images/common/back.gif
DML/ML/AML : tight marking always, tackling hard if bravery 15- (
你應該睇錯
嗰個係隻閘既setting
不過隻左閘對住既應該係人地右翼
唔通係迫佢落底???

holdq 發表於 2008-4-12 00:32:34

OI係opposition instructions~
即係對對手既個setting呀~

cesc 發表於 2008-4-13 13:43:32

未試過個陣..不過見到d好亂既線就唔知點好
都係用返自己既陣算啦:icon117:

tomy 發表於 2008-4-13 18:45:32

試左一場
輸 5-4:p
未試過輸得咁爽:icon110:
david jones 入3粒:D

彈弓仔 發表於 2008-4-15 11:34:01

輸頭鎚輸死-.-
岩岩用米堡輸俾Bolton六球
六球都係頭鎚直入或者二傳射入=.=

pop3 發表於 2008-4-15 16:53:35

我DMC 直頭用winger 去踢
DL / DR 用 def mf 去踢
效果唔錯

pop3 發表於 2008-4-15 16:56:40

原帖由 彈弓仔 於 2008-4-1511:34 AM 發表 http://www.hkcmforum.com/images/common/back.gif
輸頭鎚輸死-.-
岩岩用米堡輸俾Bolton六球
六球都係頭鎚直入或者二傳射入=.=
輸heading 我諗係你D player 問題 :icon110: :icon110: :icon110:

彈弓仔 發表於 2008-4-16 09:16:57

原帖由 pop3 於 2008-4-1504:56 PM 發表 http://www.hkcmforum.com/images/common/back.gif

輸heading 我諗係你D player 問題 :icon110: :icon110: :icon110:

米堡後衛就算唔汁

兩個中堅都有HEADING18+

但係俾K.DAVIDS頭鎚屈死晒
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