新青年軍系統Q&A
一、基础篇Part I.General
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原帖由 HT-Global 发表
Can you alternate between them easily???
Not alternate, but you should be able to change if you like (not every day, or every week - but some time at least). Exactly how that will work is not decided yet though.
可以在两种制度间轮换吗？
不好说是轮换，不过可以根据意愿进行改变（未必是每天、每周都可以改变，但至少是某些时候）。具体方式尚未决定。
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Are there any plans of REMOVING the OLD Youth System in a near or medium future?
No.
短期或中期内是否有彻底移除原系统的计划？
无。
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How long will this old system continue?
Indefinately I think.
那老系统将持续多久？
永远，我认为。
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It is too early to say that new system will work better than old one, but I see one great advantage - will have 1 more competative game weekly. But I dont like the idea my money for YS to be wasted. So at first glampse I`d like to do this: Will get some new system young boys, just to fill my young squad, and then will return to old system. So one question: Can I still play young team matches if I do this?
You either choose the new system or the old system. You can't mix them.
现在说新系统比原来的好为时尚早，不过至少它有一点优势：每周多了一场比赛。可我也不希望投在原系统上的钱被浪费了，所以打算：先换成新系统，抽取球员直到凑满上场阵容，再回归原系统。那么，我还能打青年联赛吗？
要么选用新系统，要么就用旧的，不能脚踏两条船……
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原帖由 HT-Global 发表
what about the level of the YS? Is it staying the same as we managed to reach up to now or you will reset it, which means that all these money we invested for so long time was for nothing?
Nothing? All these years I think you've promoted a lot of youth players in order to (maybe) win your investment back.
In the new system the level of the YS is unimportant. The only time you might need it again is if you want to go back to the old youth system. We're not definately sure how to handle the level then, but in some way it will be frozen or at least partly frozen (and depending on the number of scouts perhaps?). We'll see.
新青年队的等级是？他将继承现行青年队系统的等级还是进行重设？而后者也就意味着我们这么多个赛季来的投入都打了水漂？
完全一无所获么？这些年来你所抽取的球员（或许）已经能够为你赢回成本了吧？
新的系统中青年队等级将不再重要，只有当你想回归旧系统时它才可能有意义。目前我们并不清楚如何处理选择新系统玩家的原有等级，不过它们应该会在某种程度上被冻结，或是部分冻结（例如由聘请球探数量决定……）让我们拭目以待。
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原帖由 HT-Global 发表
Will the pricesystem be continued? I mean, will there be an 5000/10000/20000 option?
As the editorial says, you'll pay for each scout you want - so in a way, yes.
新青年队系统有没有不同的投资额度？以前那种50000，100000，200000的选项会存在吗？
社论说了，你要为每位聘用的球探付钱。所以从某种意义上，是的。
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原帖由 HT-Global 发表
Can we see the complete skills of the youth players when they are in the youth team? Or only a rough view over some skills?
I think the edtiorial says what can be said about that for now:
The youth players' skills will not be set in stone, they'll be floating. This means you'll have to explore your players and through match ratings see in which position they play the best. Skills will be more exact the more you train and explore your players, but exactly how good they are will first be known when you promote them to the senior squad. Except from the normal skills, youth players will also have values for potential and character.
青年球员的能力是完全可见的吗？或者我们只能看见一些技能的大致情况？
目前我们所能说明的已经写在在社论中了：
青年球员的技能水平不是呆板不变的。也就是说您需要通过比赛评级来好好研究您的球员的潜能以及他们的最佳位置。您练得越多、研究得越透彻，就越能准确掌握他们的技能水平，但确切技能水平只能等到您将他们提升到一队的时候才揭晓。除了一般技能以外，青年球员还有潜能以及性格这两项价值。（照抄社论……）
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原帖由 HT-Global 发表
You cannot see the skill of these 15-16 year olds. Until they are promoted. Do you just put them somewhere to see how many stars he gets?
You'll see something, just don't the exact skills and not the way senior players are presentated. Putting them somewhere on the pitch and see how many stars he got is not going to be a bad idea however.
直到升入一线队前都无法确切看到青年球员的技能。那我们怎么判断？把他们扔到场上看看能得几颗星？
你们会得到一些信息的，只是不是确切的等级，不是一线队球员那样的表现方式罢了。通过比赛星级进一步确认也是个不错的办法……
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原帖由 HT-Global 发表
If a club choses to use the new YP-system, scouted players are around 15. They can be promoted at a minimum of 17years old. Does that mean in those 2 years/seasons, u only play the new system, and having each week 1 youthplayer promoted in your youthsquad?
Just to be clear, I've never said how old a youth player in the new system must be in order to be promoted to the senior team. But yes, for some seasons in the beginning you will only play the new system and find youth players for your youth team.
如果一家俱乐部选用了新系统，得到一些15岁的青年球员，他们至少要到17才能进入一线队。那这意味着，这两个赛季你只能玩玩自己的青年系统，每周增加一个青年队球员？
注意，我从未正面回答过新系统里青年球员要到几岁才能晋升一队。但，是的，在头几个赛季你只能这样。
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原帖由 HT-Global 发表
That is, a certain age is a set age？
You will not be able to promote someone before a certain (set) age, and not after another certain (set) age.
那个年龄是设定好的吗？
你将无法在某年龄前（设定值）或某年龄后（设定值）将球员升入一线队。
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will there be a different between III and VII youth players?
No, that wouldn't be fair.
三级和七级球队的青年队球员会有区别吗？
不会。否则就不公平了。
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原帖由 HT-Global 发表
Why the connection? (with the senior squad)
I think it makes sense that the progress or your normal team also affects the youth squad. It makes sense that youth players are better motivated to work hard for that place in the senior squad if the senior squad performs well. It also means you can't just give up your senior squad and sell it out etc etc. But you got a point, allthough I think the above is more important than that it's definately something to consider too.
那青年队与一线队的联系？
我想这样的构想是有意义的：一线队的进展将影响青年队；一线队的表现越好，青年队员就越有动力进行训练力争跻身其中；玩家不能完全放弃成年队把球员卖光光；等等……
尽管以上只是我认为要优先考虑的，不过你应该明白了：青年队与一线队之间必然有一些联系。 二、训练、经济篇：
Part II. Training & Finance
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原帖由 HT-Global 发表
I assume that this means that talent will apply for all youth players regardless if you choose to use the new or the old system?
Sorry, I should've been more precise. Talent only apply for youth players in the new system.
我猜想，潜力将同时适用于新旧两个系统的全部年轻球员？
抱歉我没说清楚。潜力只对新系统的青年球员适用。
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原帖由 HT-Global 发表
I think understand that young players will be trained, the type of training is the same of the normal team or will be independent?
Independent.
我明白那些青年球员也能得到训练，不过该训练是要与一线队相同还是相独立？
独立。
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原帖由 HT-Global 发表
the growth of the youngsters will depend only the type of training and talent, or there will be other factors as well(position in that week match)?
The position in that week's game will matter, as always.
青年球员的成长除了训练种类，球员资质外，还受其他因素影响吗（例如上场位置）？
同以往一样，上场位置是因素之一。
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In the announcement there is said that if you have a young striker that has reached the cap of his scoring skill you can choose to train him on passing. (I read the dutch version so i hope you understand what i mean)
Does this mean that you can define individual training types for every youngster in the youthsquad?
The points can be distrubated on different stuff, including individual stuff. Normal training can not.
公告中说如果一名年轻射手的射门训练到了瓶颈，那可以选择继续训练他的传球。难道说，可以为每个青年球员设定个人训练方案？
那些“额外分数”可以分配在各方面，包括个人能力方面。不过训练不能进行个人设定。(distrubated疑为distributed之误)
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原帖由 HT-Global 发表
for example if I promote to A-Team a player with solid scoring (the max reachable as a youngster) can I train him on scoring??
Yes.
假如把一个青年队阶段进球最多练到稳定的球员练满了提到一线队，那他还能继续提升进球能力吗？
可以。
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If you have some scouts, and they present each of them one player/week from which you are able to accept only one player, what will you know about the presented players?
They will provide you some basic info so you'll be able to make a decision.
每位球探每周会向球会推荐一名球员，但我们总共只能接受一名……球探推荐时我们能了解到多少？
球探会带给你些基本信息，够你作出决定的了。
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原帖由 HT-Global 发表
But we must to pay only for the player that we accept or to pay for all youth players that rejects before accept one?
You pay for the scouts, not for the player.
我们要为哪些青年球员付钱？最终接受的那个还是包括之前拒绝的每一个？
你支付球探的薪水，而非球员。
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原帖由 HT-Global 发表
To Ht-Tjecken, how big will be the wages of the scouts? About the same as all personnel or a lot bigger, like 20k/week each?
Too detailed to answer on.
那么球探的工资会是？与其他俱乐部人员相同还是更贵一些，例如200000元一周？
目前无法回答这么细节的问题。
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Will the youth players have a salary that is going to be paid?
Not sure yet. But if they do, I guess we will cover that cost with income from selling soda and homebaked cakes.
要支付青年球员的工资吗？
尚未确定。不过即使这样也花不了几个子儿，通过卖汽水、蛋糕等等我们会把这部分损失弥补回来的。
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Will there be a transfer-system for these 15 and 16 year old players?
Nope, at least not in the first version.
会为这些15到16岁的球员设立一个转会系统吗？
至少在最初版本中不会。
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原帖由 HT-Global 发表
So, we will have to wait until they are 17 to put them on the regular transferlist?
You'll have to wait until they are a certain age, which most probably will be higher than 17.
那么我们要等他们到十七岁才能放入常规转会市场？
是的你需要等他们达到一定年龄。这个年龄很可能是至少十七岁。
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Does that also mean, that u cant sell any YP for 2 at least years/seasons? (so you're only paying scouts and paying pulls and not having any YP-income)
For some seasons you'll not be able to sell any youth players, yes.
也就是说，至少两个赛季里，玩家将不能卖出苗子……（球探花钱，抽球员花钱，却没有收入？）
一定时间内无法卖出青年球员。是的。
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原帖由 HT-Global 发表
This will result in a lot less youth players in the market, giving the old system a financial benefit which may be countered as I understand with better chance of better players in new system.
Is that a right assumption?
Pretty much, yes. Most likely there will be less youth players in the game as you probably will not promote a youth player to your senior squad every week. On the other hand, the players you choose to promote will in general be better. And as said in the editorial, players from the new youth system will in general be better as they can get better secondaries.
那么一定时间内转会市场年轻球员将减少，延续旧系统的玩家将获利，相对于新系统能培养出（辅助技能）更好的球员，这将是一种制衡？
基本上就是这样。而且由于不大可能每周都提升一名青年队球员进入一线队，大致上转会市场的年轻球员数量将变少。另一方面，由青年队提升进一线队的球员总体质量上升。就像社论所说的，“新系统可能会培养出更好的青年球员(因为他们的主要技能虽然级别一样，但是辅助技能更好)。”
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原帖由 HT-Global 发表
Every season (excepted the first 1-2-3 seasons, of course, when you will have no youths) each team at the first week of the season will have some 17 years old (say 4-5-6-7, depending on how many 16 years old he has trained the last season). Then he will promote them (I suppose one for week, like now, is it correct?), and then there will be no new 17 years old players till the next season. So we will have on the market a lot of 17 years old players in the first 2-3 weeks of every season and quite zero in the second half of the season. Is it correct?
Ok, here we go with the 17 year olds again. I repeat this again: It's not been said that you will (or will not) be able to promote 17 year olds. Apart from that, I think the market will take care of your concern itself. If all ppl will promote youths the first week, then the prices will fall and you'll get less paid. Moreover, you'll still be able to train the youth player in your youth squad after the first week. And finally, you'll not promote a youth player to the senior team every week.
过几个赛季后，每个（新系统）球队在季初都会有几个17岁球员（取决于上赛季青年队中的16岁球员数量）。然后玩家会让他们升入一线队（是一周一个地升吗？），再然后直到下赛季就都没有新的17岁球员了……那么在转会市场上，赛季前两三周会有很多17岁球员，而季末则几乎没有，是吗？
好吧，我们又回到17岁这个花季……哦不这个话题了。再重复一遍，是不是到了十七岁就能升入一线队，我没有说对，也没说错。除此之外，转会市场自身有很强的调控力，假如大家都在第一周提升，出售，那就会价格下滑，获利减少。再之，你可以在第一周后把球员继续留在青年队里接受训练。最后，你并不是每周都能提升青年球员进入一线队的。 三、青年联赛篇
Part III. Youth League
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原帖由 HT-Global 发表
About the league of the youth team. Will this league move WITH the normal team?, or it's going to be an independent team with another rivals and stuff?
The youth team is an independent team which play in a series of its own.
关于青年队所在的联赛，它与成年队所在联赛相关么？还是与此外的玩家组成独立联赛？
青年队是独立的球队，有自己的联赛。
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原帖由 HT-Global 发表
Are the youth teams playing in national or international leagues? Can I play in a league with friends from different countries?
As I said, you can create your own series - meaning you can have a series with teams from different countries for example.
青年队将参加国内联赛还是国际联赛？联赛可以是多国玩家组成的吗？
我说过了青年队联赛是独立的——例如可以由不同国家的玩家们组成。
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原帖由 HT-Global 发表
even though i did not get that with the youth squad games, but i guess we will hear more and more until it will actually be implemented?
In short, you'll be able to create your own series. Maybe some friends want a series of their own, or collegues or a federation etc. You play a match every week with your youth team in that series (and you'll also be able to choose the time of the match), except for some regular breaks for a friendly match. This to make it possible to meet other ppl/teams sometimes too.
在青年队系统真正投入运行之前，我想我们应该会获得更多关于青年队自建比赛的信息吧？
简而言之，就是可以创建属于自己的联赛，例如和朋友、同事、或是论坛坛友等等。玩家每周让青年队在联赛中进行一场比赛，自定联赛时间，此外还可以有联赛间歇期安排与其他非联赛玩家间的友谊赛。（后半句咨询awjharbin，说有歧义，不过多半是这个意思）
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原帖由 HT-Global 发表
Your A-squad will still be able to play on sundays and wednesdays right?
Yes, of course.
一线队周中周末比赛不受影响吧？
当然！
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how many of those "youth matches" will be played in one week?
It will be one youth match each week. Either a match in the series or a friendly.
一周可以有多少青年队比赛？
一周一场。或是联赛，或是友谊赛。
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Would it be possible to link several Youth Team leagues so you could use a Relegation and Promotion system between two leagues or more?
Not in the first version at least.
是否可以将数个青年联赛联结起来并引入升降级制度？
至少在最初版本中，不行。
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could youth players get an injury in the friendly game?
Sure. It's not like teenagers don't hurt themselves or are famous for having a calm temperament.
青年球员在友谊赛中会受伤吗？
当然。难道青年球员以钢筋铁骨或脾气温和而闻名？显然不切实际。
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how important will be a match in the series?
Depends on how much you want to win the series and beat your friends... For training of youth players there's no difference.
青年联赛胜负有多重要？
这得看你有多想击败你的朋友们并赢得冠军了……训练价值方面，毫无影响。
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Will the team spirit of the senior squad affect the midfield of the youth squad?
No.
一线队团队精神影响青年队中场等级吗？
不。
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原帖由 HT-Global 发表
How do you get 11 youth team players if you do not invest in new system (or even if you do)? Or can 17-19 year olds also play?
If you don't use the new system you can still use the old one (or none). If you use the new system you will not be able to use the old one. Until you're able to fill your youth squad (in the new system) with 11 players, you will be able to pick up the "neighbours' kids" or something (ie dummies which will be equally bad).
如果不投资新系统（甚至投资了……）我该如何凑满青年队出场阵容？17-19岁的球员能参赛吗？
不投资新系统就意味着延续投资旧系统（或者哪样都不投资），（这样也就没有青年队阵容）。当新系统（每周一个）抽满11个球员组成出场阵容时，就可以和你隔壁家的小毛孩们开踢了。不用担心，他们和你家的小孩们一样糟糕。
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Will the result of the youth matches affect in any way the club finances(like income from tickets)?
I'm not that sure fathers and mothers pay anything to watch their kids play.
青年队比赛会对球队球队财政产生影响吗？（例如门票收入）
你认为靶拔玛麻们会付钞票来看北鼻们踢球么？我对此不抱希望…… 四、其它篇
Part IV. Other Things..
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原帖由 HT-Global 发表
Are Hattrick capable to support the charge of the matches of youngs?
No, but we'll do it anyway.
Seriously, we will of course make sure we can support these matches and have the necessary servers etc ready.
Hattrick可以承受青年队比赛带来的负荷吗？
现在还不，但我们总会搞定。一定会确保把服务器之类的支持环节都准备就绪。
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why not move everyone on the new youth squad system ?
Because there are Hattrick users who don't want to put that much more time into Hattrick, and we shouldn't force them.
为何不把新系统适用于所有球队？
有一部分玩家不想为Hattrick花费过多的时间，那我们就不该强迫他们这么做。
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so will there be a big U 20 problem because of this ?
Not really, but it will of course affect the U20 teams as there will most likely be fewer players to choose among for one (1) WC. But it's just for one WC, and it should hurt everyone the same way: You get less players to choose from.
The new system will, after that one WC, have players ready to play in the U20 teams.
改革会对U20国家队造成冲击吗？
并不真的是这样。当然了，由于新系统的引入，U20国家队在约一届(U20)世界杯期间会陷入苗子稀缺的危机。不过仅仅是一届世界杯受影响罢了，而且对每支国家队都一样：大家的选择都变少了。这届世界杯过后，新系统培养出的球员应该已能够进入国青队了。
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Will the matches with the youth team generate flags so it will be possible to get two flags per week?
Honestly, we haven't thought about flags at all. I guess they'll get a separate department if so.
青年队比赛可以生成旗帜吗？于是一周收集两面旗帜？
老实说，我们从没想到过这个问题……我想如果会生成的话，那也会在旗帜收集中另辟一栏。
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Are you angry with us for being such a dumb crowd of minds just trying to break you with tons of questions that we already know Wont be answered as we want?
Not at all, I'm just trying to tell you why you perhaps don't get an answer. No matter how hard I try I will not be able to answer them all unfortunately.
我们如此不可理喻，把成吨明显不会得到解答的问题向你们砸去……你为此生气吗？
一点也不。我只想尽量告诉你们为何有些问题无法得到解答。很抱歉无论怎么努力，我还是无法一一回答。
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原帖由 HT-Global 发表
Do you enjoy to cause so much expectative around the globe with just a few words? What is like to be so powerful?
It's fun to see all these expectations, which I also share with you. So yes, I enjoy it and I also hope to catch something up which might fit for the future etc. But powerful? I certainly don't feel powerful.
你们有想过寥寥数语就能造成全世界如此多的期待吗？感觉到自己的强大了？
看到这些期待实在是件有趣的事情，我与你们共同分享。是的，我乐在其中并希望能有所发现，以便将来进行改进。不过强大？我真的没觉得呵呵…… 轉自 http://www.dsws.cn/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=5177&extra=page%3D1 原帖由 ~~冬之子~~ 於 2006-12-419:15 發表
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原帖由 HT-Global 发表
what about the level of the YS? Is it staying the same as we managed to reach up to now or you will reset it, which means that all these money we invested for so long time was for nothing?
Nothing? All these years I think you've promoted a lot of youth players in order to (maybe) win your investment back.
In the new system the level of the YS is unimportant. The only time you might need it again is if you want to go back to the old youth system. We're not definately sure how to handle the level then, but in some way it will be frozen or at least partly frozen (and depending on the number of scouts perhaps?). We'll see.
新青年队的等级是？他将继承现行青年队系统的等级还是进行重设？而后者也就意味着我们这么多个赛季来的投入都打了水漂？
完全一无所获么？这些年来你所抽取的球员（或许）已经能够为你赢回成本了吧？
新的系统中青年队等级将不再重要，只有当你想回归旧系统时它才可能有意义。目前我们并不清楚如何处理选择新系统玩家的原有等级，不过它们应该会在某种程度上被冻结，或是部分冻结（例如由聘请球探数量决定……）让我们拭目以待。
too bad...
my youth squad just improved to SOLID this week... 原帖由 TZZero 於 2006-12-407:25 PM 發表
too bad...
my youth squad just improved to SOLID this week...
你可以繼續抽落去 原帖由 ~~冬之子~~ 於 2006-12-419:27 發表
你可以繼續抽落去
in old system...
i can only train youth players by playing them in main squad games...
not efficient...
also cannot play the new youth league lei...
hope the youth squad level can be related to new system...
200000 * 16 = 3.2M...
can build 2000+ seats la... 好似好煩咁:icon050: 原帖由 dtclaw 於 2006-12-407:41 PM 發表
好似好煩咁:icon050:
諗緊CUT唔CUT個青年軍投資好
一季都升唔到去邊 原帖由 TZZero 於 2006-12-419:25 發表
too bad...
my youth squad just improved to SOLID this week...
我上季中就穩定
用左over 1.5m
而家要用新既:o 原帖由 hehe0114 於 2006-12-407:43 PM 發表
我上季中就穩定
用左over 1.5m
而家要用新既:o
唔轉囉
升多一季去到優秀
咁之後果兩季青苗大減下
D苗可以賣貴D
等D人玩熟左個系統之後先轉去新系統
唔駛做開荒牛 轉左新system之後仲要抽十一個星期先夠一隊有得比賽，咁咪有排？:icon101:
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