其實我自己就覺得英格蘭就真係只能踢返9斬442，唔駛用腦，效果可能會係最好
但近年d球員實在太 ...
henrytam 發表於 2012-4-30 14:37 http://www.hkcmforum.com/images/common/back.gif
Actually
the new crops of English is already much better in technique and passing.
或可參考紐卡素的打法
鞏固寢防，中場攔截，兩翼出波，快速反擊，前線入球
係典型的英式法 ...
Dioray 發表於 2012-4-30 14:49 http://www.hkcmforum.com/images/common/back.gif
but there is no Cisse or Demba Ba/
Bent?
本帖最後由 Gianni Rivera 於 2012-4-30 16:26 編輯
其實我自己就覺得英格蘭就真係只能踢返9斬442，唔駛用腦，效果可能會係最好
但近年d球員實在太 ...
henrytam 發表於 2012-4-30 14:37 http://www.hkcmforum.com/images/common/back.gif
A midfield of Chamberlain Wilshere Carrick Parker Young Cleverly
with Old Guards like Gerrard and Lampard is not bad at all..
(Milner, Barry, Walcott cannot even prove themselves at club level, so exclude them).
在討論人手之前，不是更應該先訂下發展目標及明確戰術體系？明知歐洲國家盃不可為，是否應該放棄一班三十歲的老將，讓新人吸引更多大賽經驗？為下屆世界盃做準備？
雙特先不說，泰利、柏加、卡域克、cashely下屆都極可能缺席，然而接班問題卻未明朗。中堅好一點，smalling、鍾斯、卡希爾都有能力又經大賽洗禮(中堅一向是英格蘭的優勢)，但左閘呢？防中的問題更嚴重，柏加之後有何可信任的防中人選？撇除替工的鐘斯，現在的英格蘭新一代防中，可說是連butt的水準也沒有。
至於說張伯倫好過禾7，單靠一季觀察就如此武斷？想當日，禾7國家隊連中三元，還是不給捧上天？況且兩師兄弟的最佳位置也不同，張伯倫是翼，禾7明顯傾向鋒，這樣比較不太公平。
簡單而言，在一切未明的大前題下，英格蘭的前途堪憂…
本帖最後由 Dioray 於 2012-4-30 17:01 編輯
大膽一點，用歐洲國家盃練新人
hart
walker cahill terry baines
100 Cleverlyjones young
rooney welback
再大膽d，連泰利都踢走，直接用smailling
如果禾7傷得好，抽走welback，換上禾7，全速推進
本帖最後由 Gianni Rivera 於 2012-4-30 17:21 編輯
I guess using a team purely made of youngster is just too radical.
Most teams have experienced players combined with youngster.
Even Spain would play a 34 years old Xavi, and carrick/ parker are just 29/30.
They still have a future after 2 years if they can keep their form. (Carrick has a better chance as parker is somehow too combative).
Even a team have a little chance of winning the cup,
they should try their best to win it and field their best player (considering form and ability, certainly).
Just as should Italy in WC 2006 fielded his youngsters and give up pirlo/ del piero/ totti so to train their youngsters?? Not a chance! They were still in very gd form. Training a team should be done in the friendly/ qualification round, but not the finals.
Jones cannot play in midfield, and he should not be in the England team at all. He played very badly for United this season, apart from few breath-taking tackles. Walker > Richards? Cleverly played too little this season, and does not deserve a spot, subsitution at most.
Rooney is banned for few matches, so he needs a replacement.
Chamberlain? In 2004, when Rooney was selected, it was also considered too 'radical' at that time. Did he score tons of goal for everton that year? No, but it was sure he is very talented. I think Chamberlain also belongs to this case.
講真，派咩人其實無咩所謂
我強調的是要有目的、有遠見、有規劃
即便英人仍然以為有機會爭標，大可派出「最強」隊伍
但任何決定，都一定有代價
我只是認為，英格蘭已到了變的時候(數年前應該要開始)，由戰術、人手到青訓都落後於歐洲一線，過程中，陣痛難免，強如巴西，到了青黃不接期，總有一兩屆大賽令人失望，然而成績是變幻，理念才長久
但我從來未在英足總身上看過任何長期規劃，每屆大賽都是以奪冠為口號，但行動如何配合呢？
在討論人手之前，不是更應該先訂下發展目標及明確戰術體系？明知歐洲國家盃不可為，是否應該放棄一班三十歲 ...
Dioray 發表於 2012-4-30 16:56 http://www.hkcmforum.com/images/common/back.gif
有咩盃佢地個認為不可為:o
學神點都好過麥卡倫既
同埋佢係利物浦得罪班大帝球迷先會咁快俾人趕走o者
如果鶴臣教英格蘭，傳曉頓會接手西布朗 :icon8:
有目標有遠見係好，但唔代表一定要用FULL TEAM年青人
一來冇大哥帶新人，二來年青一輩承受壓力過大，有D老人家"咩"飛，後生嘅可以踢得更放
不過英格蘭中場真係太多大哥大,
柏加一定踢，但卡域克林柏特謝拉特帶哂去?
俾我揀我會3個都唔要, 要一個史高斯, 如果佢肯踢
要老將要穩定首選咸爺
講真，派咩人其實無咩所謂
我強調的是要有目的、有遠見、有規劃
即便英人仍然以為有機會爭標，大可派出「 ...
Dioray 發表於 2012-4-30 17:29 http://www.hkcmforum.com/images/common/back.gif
咁英格蘭其實只計個人又唔係衰到咁:icon101:
爭標組都算既,不過一線尾囉:icon101:
本來以老帶新係最理想,但可惜都要d老既係有心帶先得
睇下英格蘭班大佬,唔聽話又厚面皮
林伯都三十幾歲仲死唔肯退出國家隊阻住個地球轉:o
望返今季的車仔就會睇到雷同之處:o
當然最阻住個地球轉的緊係碧咸大大:o
冤魂不散,諗落真心覺得不如搵佢做教練/球員啦:o
可能真係大家服佢呢:o
阿仙奴咁快手 :eek:
Arsenal agree long-term Podolski deal
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/arsenal-agree-deal-for-podolski
阿仙奴咁快手
Arsenal agree long-term Podolski deal
Donald 發表於 2012-4-30 21:43 http://www.hkcmforum.com/images/common/back.gif
正想講,慢左
其實一兩個月前已經傳到週街都知:icon101:
不過科隆仲未護級成功架喎:icon102:
hi佢老味:o
Marin走,科隆9射王子走,kagawa又走:o
我仲有乜野睇呀:o
阿仙奴咁快手
Arsenal agree long-term Podolski deal
Donald 發表於 2012-4-30 21:43 http://www.hkcmforum.com/images/common/back.gif
再唔簽人,想雲隊長續約都幾難:icon101:
其實我自己就覺得英格蘭就真係只能踢返9斬442，唔駛用腦，效果可能會係最好
但近年d球員實在太 ...
henrytam 發表於 2012-4-30 14:37 http://www.hkcmforum.com/images/common/back.gif
最衰英格蘭班友咁多年都唔識射十二碼，唔係場場龜縮搏射十二碼都唔錯
英格蘭最唔好就係出產太多所謂全能中場，實情有D週身刀冇張利，令到隊波踢法單調
咁英格蘭其實只計個人又唔係衰到咁
爭標組都算既,不過一線尾囉
本來以老帶新係最理想, ...
henrytam 發表於 2012-4-30 21:41 http://www.hkcmforum.com/images/common/back.gif
以林伯近排的表現，值得一個國家隊值位
反而謝拉特同巴利個D真係算9數...
正想講,慢左
其實一兩個月前已經傳到週街都知
不過科隆仲未護級成功架喎
hi佢老味
...
henrytam 發表於 2012-4-30 21:44 http://www.hkcmforum.com/images/common/back.gif
Mame Diouf :icon112:
咁英格蘭其實只計個人又唔係衰到咁
爭標組都算既,不過一線尾囉
本來以老帶新係最理想, ...
henrytam 發表於 2012-4-30 21:41 http://www.hkcmforum.com/images/common/back.gif
里奧咪又係:o :icon101: