vctwl 發表於 2005-2-10 20:38:38

CE Chemistry - Electrolysis

Using carbon electrodes, what will happen if molten copper(II) dichromate is under electrolysis?

sorry ... 加番
呢個先係我想問gei問題

[ Last edited by vctwl on 13-2-2005 at 07:39 PM ]

bobby_zamora 發表於 2005-2-11 22:48:37

Originally posted by vctwl at 2005-2-10 08:38 PM:
Using carbon electrodes, what will happen if copper(II) dichromate is under electrolysis?
...............
Cu2Cr2O7????

does it exist...?
if really...then i will say nothing will happen
both Cu+ and Cr2O72- will carry out reduction and not current will be formed

Newcastle Fans 發表於 2005-2-11 23:06:06

Originally posted by bobby_zamora at 2005-2-11 22:48:

...............
Cu2Cr2O7????

does it exist...?
if really...then i will say nothing will happen
both Cu+ and Cr2O72- will carry out reduction and not current will be formed
...... Cu(II) = Cu2+ :confused:
copper(II) dichromate should be CuCr2O7 :confused:

[ Last edited by Newcastle Fans on 11-2-2005 at 11:09 PM ]

Newcastle Fans 發表於 2005-2-11 23:07:56

There will be deposition of reddish brown solid of Cu at the cathode
and... there'll be some green solution around the anode?
just a guess

[ Last edited by Newcastle Fans on 11-2-2005 at 11:10 PM ]

bobby_zamora 發表於 2005-2-11 23:16:03

Originally posted by Newcastle Fans at 2005-2-11 11:06 PM:
CuCr2O7
...... Cu(II) = Cu2+ :confused:
copper(II) dichromate should be CuCr2O7 :confused:

[ Last edited by Newcastle Fans on 11-2-2005 at 11:09 PM ]
shxx
miss out the II

bobby_zamora 發表於 2005-2-11 23:17:12

Originally posted by Newcastle Fans at 2005-2-11 11:07 PM:
There will be deposition of reddish brown solid of Cu at the cathode
and... there'll be some green solution around the anode?
just a guess

[ Last edited by Newcastle Fans on 11-2-2005 at 11: ...
no...i don't think so...
Cu2+ to copper..is reduction...
green solution..is cr3+..
cr2o7 to cr3+ still is reduction..
2 reduction..happen in a chemical cell??

vctwl 發表於 2005-2-12 13:12:55

主要問題係:
1. dichromate 無 acidified
2. copper(II) 同 dichromate 都係 oxidizing agent
3. 無 reaction?
4. 照通電?

martinsy39 發表於 2005-2-13 12:46:46

ther are 4 kinds of ions in the solution: Cu2+,Cr2O72-,H+,andOH-
according to electrochemical series, Cu2+ and OH- will be discharged.
half equation: Cu2+ +2e- ->2Cu
                  4OH- ->O2 + 2H2O + 4e-
reddish brown solid will deposit on the cathode, and colourless gas bubbles will be produced on the anode

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vctwl 發表於 2005-2-13 13:16:00

Originally posted by martinsy39 at 2005/2/13 12:46 PM:
ther are 4 kinds of ions in the solution: Cu2+,Cr2O72-,H+,andOH-
according to electrochemical series, Cu2+ and OH- will be discharged.
half equation: Cu2+ +2e- ->2Cu
                  4OH- ...

sorry
我想問 molten ... :icon113:

[ Last edited by vctwl on 13-2-2005 at 07:42 PM ]

2076 發表於 2005-2-13 17:19:43

Originally posted by vctwl at 2005-2-13 01:16 PM:


molten bor

上面都無講:icon063:

2076 發表於 2005-2-13 17:22:57

Originally posted by martinsy39 at 2005-2-13 12:46 PM:
ther are 4 kinds of ions in the solution: Cu2+,Cr2O72-,H+,andOH-
according to electrochemical series, Cu2+ and OH- will be discharged.


but Cr2O7^2- is a stronger oxidizing agent than Cu^2+

vctwl 發表於 2005-2-13 19:40:29

Originally posted by 2076 at 2005/2/13 05:19 PM:


上面都無講:icon063:

sorry :icon113:

martinsy39 發表於 2005-2-13 21:08:33

Originally posted by 2076 at 2005-2-13 05:22 PM:


but Cr2O7^2- is a stronger oxidizing agent than Cu^2+
i think anion will not act as an oxidizing agent in electrolysis, just like NO3-
Also, what is the difference between molten copper2 dichromate and not molten one?

2076 發表於 2005-2-13 22:10:48

Originally posted by martinsy39 at 2005-2-13 09:08 PM:

Also, what is the difference between molten copper2 dichromate and not molten one?

Molten係pure
唔molten係個chemical溶左落水度, 有H+同OH-(orO^2-)
唔知係咪咁

martinsy39 發表於 2005-2-13 22:51:35

then if molten
cathode: Cu2+ +2e- ->2Cu
anode: Cr2O72- + 14H+ + 6e- ->2Cr3+ +7H2O

2076 發表於 2005-2-14 09:43:27

Originally posted by martinsy39 at 2005-2-13 10:51 PM:
then if molten
cathode: Cu2+ +2e- ->2Cu
anode: Cr2O72- + 14H+ + 6e- ->2Cr3+ +7H2O

最主要問題係, anode係lose electrons既地方, 點可以進行reduction?

所以搞咁耐, 我認為係無反應的:icon062:

martinsy39 發表於 2005-2-14 11:27:27

yes, you are right
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