歐冠盃4強討論

andyjeff

原帖由 hehe0114 於 2011-5-1  02:58 AM 發表

丹尼爾既插水，於我黎講，係不道德行為，pepe果下同時係過左火
丹尼爾既插水直接影響左隊友既反應
rm玩緊既踩線，唔過份既時候，係硬朗，過左火位，就係兇狠

我想講
睇波，大家都馬後炮
隔左幾百萬里，睇住唔知幾吋既mon
有埋慢鏡
跟 ...

丹尼爾插水gum多年佢d隊友其實都見慣見熟
我引象中佢係係巴卡第一個開始做d gum ge野
記得佢第一年踢巴卡對馬體會比人hi一hi就成個飛起, 反應大到...
自此後就一直吾like佢

我睇直播第一下覺得吾係紅, 反而睇返之後d片先覺得紅都合理
只怪比比吾收腳, 鞋底去哂
丹尼爾避到吾代表吾洗紅
但佢之後ge誇張反應係真係令人討厭

Smithy

http://channel.pixnet.net/sport/carticle/soccor/wtssoccer/28502846

secret

原帖由 TZZero 於 2011-5-1  01:30 PM 發表


btw 係咪話過只可以 captain 同埋當事人可以同球證理論 ??
成班圍球證的話係咪可以全部/部份球員俾牌 ??

巴塞有呢方面特權(好似係)

國米~魂

原帖由 secret 於 2011-5-1  05:48 PM 發表

巴塞有呢方面特權(好似係)

强雄.jpg  ?   

Raul_Gonzalez

原帖由 Smithy 於 2011-5-1  17:23 發表
http://channel.pixnet.net/sport/ ... /wtssoccer/28502846

我重申
比比唔值紅牌!
歷來大把過勇甚或更加礙眼嘅攔截都被合理地吹罰並且黃牌警告犯規者小心唔好有下次
何況比比哩球根本就絕對唔係惡意!
卡斯基路: "你睇過比比惡意踢人未?"

個個都話值紅, 我費事拗, 但我會重申我點睇

但當然
各人判斷有否惡意或場面有幾難睇都可以差好遠


節錄上文:

...
我們現在回過頭來討論佩佩的犯規可以有更正確的見解。佩佩的爭搶有沒有故意傷人的意圖呢？如果有，給紅牌是合理的。大仙個人的看法是，佩佩衝著球去，並不是故意傷人，而且這球是在前場反搶，更沒有傷人的道理。動作是有點大沒錯，而且蹬踏就是犯規，給黃牌應該就很足夠了。

那為什麼裁判給紅牌呢？這就是大仙說的，巴薩用了他們最不屑的方式去影響這場比賽而導致的結果。

巴薩球員在上半場一而再再而三地在皇馬球員犯規時倒地，然後一堆球員圍著裁判要求給牌，犯規當然是有的，不然裁判也不會吹，但犯規的嚴重程度如何相信球迷也心裡有數，巴薩球員是不是用了很多演技來誤導裁判，球迷也可以自行判斷。

佩佩領紅牌的犯規也是如此，從皇馬官網提供的影片，佩佩的犯規並沒有踩到阿爾維斯，但阿爾維斯卻狀甚痛苦的倒地，後來還被擔架抬下場，但沒多久就回來了，而且依舊生龍活虎。
...


至於比比被逐之後巴卡進球希望似乎大增, 正反雙方都各有道理

巴卡喺我地哩期防線最重要屏障被移除之後的確踢得更有希望入波
不過最後打破僵局方式同比比在唔在陣關係未必太大 (我就唔預期比比對美斯會徹底地行步跟步, 尤其喺我地中堅工作地點)

總之
或多或少有影響啦

摩連奴賽後所講, 我地本來有望成功爭取 0:0..
好似已經要整張橫額話俾街坊知咁款..

哩個先係我嘅著眼點

AC米仔

串王只想爭想0:0的話
真係令我很失望.....
因為以他手上攻擊球員的質素,每兩,三次反擊入一球其實絕非難事

Raul_Gonzalez

原帖由 AC米仔 於 2011-5-1  20:15 發表
串王只想爭想0:0的話
真係令我很失望.....
因為以他手上攻擊球員的質素,每兩,三次反擊入一球其實絕非難事

摩連奴有講解過佢睇法..

賽前被問到和波係咪好賽果, 佢答要睇場波踢成點, 咩形勢
話唔埋我地踢落抵贏呢..咁和波就唔算好賽果架喇

賽後佢就話 0:0 係本來應有好賽果 (類似咁上下意思), 咁講其實好符合佢立場
因為我地的確又一次喺法定時間內踢唔出攻入巴卡嘅希望
(今季原來真係得國王盃決賽一場係我地有多次反擊入波好機會
尤其C朗喺終於做得成大英雄之前浪費咗好幾次
其餘幾場我地都唔多值得 "偷" 到勝利)

TZZero

4 隊 semi-final 球隊係 leg 1 同 leg 2 中間 weekend 齊齊輸波

TZZero

原帖由 AC米仔 於 2011-5-1  20:15 發表
串王只想爭想0:0的話
真係令我很失望.....
因為以他手上攻擊球員的質素,每兩,三次反擊入一球其實絕非難事

要偷雞...
主場 0-0 作客 1-1 已足夠

而家睇下 RM 次回合頂唔頂得住 70' 唔失波
再學 Arsenal @ Emirates 係尾段捅 2 刀

Smithy

原帖由 AC米仔 於 2011-5-1  08:15 PM 發表
串王只想爭想0:0的話
真係令我很失望.....
因為以他手上攻擊球員的質素,每兩,三次反擊入一球其實絕非難事

話唔定一心諗住疊埋心水去到魯營先打反擊
不過失左作客入球就真係乜都唔駛講了

國米~魂

Franck de Bleeckere will take charge of the Champions League semi-final, second-leg clash between Barcelona and Real Madrid at Camp Nou on Tuesday, according to AS.

The Belgian referee looks set to cross paths with Jose Mourinho once again, as it was he who sent off Inter's Thiago Motta for a clash with Sergio Busquets at this stage of the competition last season.

Inter went on to lose the game 1-0 after Gerard Pique's 84th minute winner, but went through 3-2 on aggregate, and subsequently beat Bayern Munich in the final.

Mourinho is likely to sit in the stands after he was sent off during last week's 2-0 defeat to Barca at the Bernabeu.

The coach was given his marching orders after contesting the decision to dismiss Pepe for a challenge on Dani Alves midway through the second half.

http://www.goal.com/en/news/1716 ... e-of-barcelona-real

國米~魂

Real Madrid have asked Uefa to take action against six Barcelona players for 'premeditated anti-sporting behaviour'. The club have added that the behaviour was part of the Barcelona coach, Pep Guardiola's plan and therefore want action against him too.

Real, who lost the first leg of their Champions League semi-final at the Bernabéu 2-0 last week, want two-game bans for Sergio Busquets, Dani Alves, Pedro and one-game bans for Seydou Keita, Víctor Valdés and Javier Mascherano.

The Real Madrid assistant coach, Aitor Karanka, will speak to the media on Monday before the return leg against Barcelona, the club have said on their website.

Karanka, along with Madrid striker Karim Benzema, will answer questions. The Madrid manager, José Mourinho, who was sent off in the first leg, caused a huge controversy with his comments before and after last week's match.

Before the game he hit out at Guardiola, then after his side's defeat he implied Barça receive favourable treatment from referees before he claimed the Catalan club had yet to win a "clean" Champions League title under Guardiola.

Uefa subsequently announced various charges against Mourinho, Madrid and Barça following the ill-tempered clash, while Barça also reported Mourinho to European football's governing body regarding his comments.

The five charges against Madrid are related to the throwing of missiles, a pitch invasion, Pepe's red card, the dismissal of Mourinho and the "inappropriate statement" given by the Portuguese coach at the post-match press conference.

Barça, who won the game thanks to a pair of Lionel Messi goals, face one charge after the substitute goalkeeper José Pinto was shown a red card during the half-time mêlée.

國米~魂

Guus Hiddink has hit out Real Madrid boss Jose Mourinho for trying to involve him in the furore over Barcelona's Champions League win at the Bernabeu last week and says he should apologise for his outburst.

Mourinho accused UEFA of conspiring against Real in favour of the Catalans after his side's 2-0 semi-final first leg defeat in a sensational post-match rant.

He even complained that Barca should be 'embarrassed' by their Champions League victory over his former club Chelsea in 2009, when Hiddink was in charge, after the Blues were denied a late penalty in the stormy affair at Stamford Bridge.

But Hiddink, now coach at Turkey, says the Special One has 'gone too far' this time and should apologise for his comments that have stained the game.

Hiddink told The Sunday Mirror: 'Mourinho has gone too far. With all his critical remarks he wants to divert the attention from the way he made his team played.

'Before I knew it, he (Mourinho) got me involved. Jose compared the Real - Barca game with the Chelsea – Barca semi-final in 2009 when I was manager at Stamford Bridge. We missed out on the final, too. But the big difference is that we did not moan about conspiracies.

'I don’t agree with Mourinho at all on this. It is right that Chelsea was badly disadvantaged then, especially with the hand ball penalty we were denied in ­injury time. That was a clear mistake from the referee.

'A couple of days later, when all the emotions had gone, we realised we had been robbed of a Champions League Final. But never, ever, did anybody at Chelsea claim there was a conspiracy. You just don’t say things like that. The thought would not even enter my mind.

'But Mourinho does, so he goes too far. I think when he looks back at the video, he should make his apologies. If he does not do that, he is deliberately trying to change the truth for his own sake.'

Hiddink also defended referee Wolfgang Stark's decision to send off Real's Pepe in the Barca match last week which led to Mourinho being ordered from the touchline.

'I have known ­Wolfgang Stark as a man with a very direct ­approach, who was fully in his rights to send Pepe off,' he said.

'If Dani Alves had had his leg on the grass, that leg would now have been ­broken. In the first half of the semi-final it was clear that Barcelona was the Spanish bull fighter who was holding up the red cape in front of Real Madrid.

'The only problem was that the bull did not want to play and remained really ­passive. In Spain that is a reason for the crowd at the Plaza de Toros to wave their white hankies. To me it was amazing that the Madrid crowd actually accepted the passive style of their team!

'That proved that for the clash between Madrid and Catalonia there are now different rules. It was fantastic how Barcelona ­handled the situation.

'At one point in the match the entire Barca team just stood still in their own half, because 11 Madrid players were just defending in their own half. They did not want to play football. It was obvious this was Mourinho’s choice to play the game like this. Tough. Barcelona did not fall for the trap.'










皇家馬德里主帥摩連奴口中「史丹福橋醜聞」的見證人希丁克，認為自己的同行真的該給巴塞隆拿道歉……


現任土耳其國家隊主帥的希丁克，雖說近期重回車路士的傳聞不斷，但在前車路士主帥、現皇家馬德里主帥摩連奴上周中製造的「炮轟歐足總事件」中，又一次和藍軍聯繫在一起。

對此前南韓、前俄羅斯國家隊主帥希丁克感覺有點「冤枉」。「這次摩連奴有些玩過界，」荷蘭老帥告訴《每日鏡報》。「他對所有事的批評都是為了吸引本在球員身上的注意力。」

「在我知道他炮轟事件之前，他把我也捲入其中。摩連奴用上周的西班牙國家打吡與2009年巴塞隆拿淘汰車路士的比賽對比，那時是我在執教車路士，我們也錯過了最終的決賽。」

「但沒有抱怨就是兩場比賽的最大區別。我不同意摩帅認為那場比賽是陰謀的看法。車路士隊內也從沒有人指出陰謀論，而且我也從未這樣想過。」

「但摩連奴想了，所以他有些過界。」

接下來希丁克開始從球證的角度分析導致摩帅發飆被逐的「比比惡意傷人傾向」。「我從一個很直接的角度支持斯達克的判罰，他完全有權利將比比罰出。如果丹尼爾不去躲那腳而是將腳仍踩在草坪上，他的腿應該就已經斷了。」

最後曾執教過巴倫西亞和貝迪斯隊的希丁克，指出皇馬在歐聯首回合中的失利，完全是自己的態度問題。「準決賽首回合的較量。看上去明顯就像巴塞隆拿鬥牛士不斷在皇馬面前扇動紅斗篷。問題出在公牛不想比賽，他們確實很消極。」

「今仗巴塞隆拿罕見地在中線互相傳遞，因為皇馬11人都在本方半場防守，後者根本不想踢球。很明顯這是摩連奴選擇的戰術，不過巴塞隆拿並沒有掉入陷阱。」

「上週末西甲皇馬還證明了自己的攻擊力，換了9個正選的他們6比3擊敗了華倫西亞，但在主帥的授意下他們改變了自己的戰術。」(Goal.com)

[ 本帖最後由 國米~魂 於 2011-5-2  08:36 PM 編輯 ]

熱刺#29戴維斯

影帝應該買返副

Raul_Gonzalez

原帖由 熱刺#29戴維斯 於 2011-5-2  19:11 發表
影帝應該買返副

做代言人啦

Raul_Gonzalez

原帖由 國米~魂 於 2011-5-2  17:24 發表
曾執教過巴倫西亞和貝迪斯隊的希丁克，指出皇馬在歐聯首回合中的失利，完全是自己的態度問題。「準決賽首回合的較量。看上去明顯就像巴塞隆拿鬥牛士不斷在皇馬面前扇動紅斗篷。問題出在公牛不想比賽，他們確實很消極。」

「今仗巴塞隆拿罕見地在中線互相傳遞，因為皇馬11人都在本方半場防守，後者根本不想踢球。很明顯這是摩連奴選擇的戰術，不過巴塞隆拿並沒有掉入陷阱。」

「上週末西甲皇馬還證明了自己的攻擊力，換了9個正選的他們6比3擊敗了華倫西亞，但在主帥的授意下他們改變了自己的戰術。」

Hey! 編者唔係唔記得希丁克喺華倫西亞之後荷蘭之後皇家畢迪斯之前教過皇家馬德里下話?

98-99, 即係98世盃之後, 希丁克繼當時剛捧歐冠盃嘅軒基斯任而成為皇家馬德里主帥
當季我地結果係一無所有, 但希丁克就等唔到收咧, 佢季內就被炒..

被炒之前, 希丁克已經同球會內高層人士交惡, 而我地喺西甲爭標形勢始終不及巴卡, 係一個威脅唔夠大嘅最後亞軍
(如有雷同, 實屬巧合)
(Btw, 冇錯, 希丁克同鄉飯烤第一次教巴卡完成西甲兩連冠)

[ 本帖最後由 Raul_Gonzalez 於 2011-5-2  09:33 PM 編輯 ]

國米~魂

Hitzfeld hits out at MourinhoMay 2, 2011
Email Print By ESPNsoccernet staff

Two-time Champions League winner Ottmar Hitzfeld has blasted Jose Mourinho for his "boorish" attitude and "shameful" tactics.


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Jose Mourinho has come under heavy fire in the wake of last week's meeting with Barcelona
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Mourinho has come under fire for his part in Real Madrid's 2-0 defeat to Barcelona last week in the first leg of their Champions League semi-final, with the former Chelsea and Inter boss adopting a defensive approach at the Bernabeu and then making explosive comments to the press after the game.

UEFA has opened disciplinary proceedings against both clubs, but Switzerland boss Hitzfeld suggested the first-leg victory for Barca was justice for the sport after the way he approached the game.

"Luckily, Mourinho's destructive tactics, aimed solely at provoking and destroying the opponents' gameplan, did not work," he told German magazine Kicker.

"Such a way of playing does not relate to the demands of Real. It's really shameful for Real Madrid. It harms the good name and image of this legendary club.

"I've met him at UEFA meetings and his behaviour is faithful to his image: arrogant, haughty, chewing gum and somewhat of a boor. Barca should make him pay on the pitch."

Hitzfeld won the Champions League with Borussia Dortmund in 1997 and Bayern Munich in 2001, and has also won the Bundesliga on seven occasions as a coach.




Hitzfeld  都參一腳

國米~魂

好難証明

FlyingDonkey

這才是暴力足球

橙色力量

原帖由 Raul_Gonzalez 於 2011-5-3  06:17 AM 發表
預祝你地贏晒兩場打吡

Thanks.

I´m in the hostel, waiting for the thunderstom go away so I can head to Camp Nou (only ten minutes walk away).