西甲11-12第18輪

Raul_Gonzalez

原帖由 TAMTOM 於 2012-1-9  23:57 發表
真馬已經無人能敵

一隊之下
地上第二強
恐怕這就是摩連奴執教皇家馬德里的極限..

TAMTOM

原帖由 Raul_Gonzalez 於 2012-1-10  00:06 發表
一隊之下
地上第二強
恐怕這就是摩連奴執教皇家馬德里的極限..

有時係人腳所限既

雖然摩連奴紀律行先 ,咁揀D 球員進攻上自然無咁隨性

Gianni Rivera

原帖由 Raul_Gonzalez 於 2012-1-10  12:06 AM 發表


一隊之下
地上第二強
恐怕這就是摩連奴執教皇家馬德里的極限..

Hasnt Pellegrini done that already?

There is still time. But

I would say, even you beat Barcelona, Real still cannot surpass the height that they reached.
Hate to say. but... possibly true.

If Kaka could have recovered his former form.

Raul_Gonzalez

原帖由 TAMTOM 於 2012-1-10  00:16 發表

有時係人腳所限既

雖然摩連奴紀律行先 ,咁揀D 球員進攻上自然無咁隨性

都關對手事
此乃史上經典強極一時之勁旅
與其話係西超, 我傾向講成係巴卡夢三以外喺歐洲以至全球各隊當中最強一支恐怕目前就係我地喇

我強調
摩連奴揀咗死撐佢真．便宜仔拉屎
仲令迪馬利亞極端地隱惡揚善
前一項我仍然唔服
後一項我唯有服了
而我不知道基迪拉可以點轉手
睇見摩連奴最後決定係俾基迪拉前插自由而 XA14 只有不求人靠自己 (雖則不能否認咁安排有助提升基迪拉之存在感)
我真係好很想我地簽麥維拿嚟解放 XA14

Raul_Gonzalez

原帖由 Gianni Rivera 於 2012-1-10  00:28 發表

Hasnt Pellegrini done that already?

There is still time. But

I would say, even you beat Barcelona, Real still cannot surpass the height that they reached.
Hate to say. but... possibly true.

If Kaka could have recovered his former form.

講過N咁多次
皇家馬德里 11-12 終於達成昇華, 絕非之前兩季可以相提並論
哩點關乎實力及通常表現, 絕非純粹數獎盃及統計
於是我早就講明, 我做好心理準備, 我地今季可能 "差過上季", 即係國王盃衛冕失敗, 一無所有, 就算我地今季明明已經達成昇華, 係實至名歸嘅地上第二強
(哩個道理..另一個論據: 前季摩連奴隊大國際淘汰巴卡夢三, 最終捧得歐冠盃..當時之前之後我都強調巴卡夢三肯定係地上最強)
(近例: 你不可能因為巴卡夢三今季西甲失分過多而懷疑他們已經不再是地上最強了)

哩個唔係時間可以解決嘅問題

同意紅字
因為哩個論點我講過N咁多次
[回帶] 我地就算可以贏到今季西甲及／或歐冠盃, 都未必等同了結巴卡夢三

哈哈, 幾粒鐘前先同我中學同學兼老友 中村俊輔@HKCM 喺 Facebook 私底下傾波講起卡卡
我話卡卡似係高峰已過, 當下只有佢 top-fit 六七成左右, 不過間中屈本身高質都夠做, 只係佢難以(亦冇需要)做皇家馬德里主角 (有別於普遍最初預期)..無論佢自身還是環境條件都唔似容許佢哪怕只係接近回復舊觀

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截拳道小子

Raul_Gonzalez

除咗恭喜.jpg

仲有
哥迪奧拿榮膺2011年最佳教練

Gianni Rivera

原帖由 Raul_Gonzalez 於 2012-1-10  01:02 AM 發表


講過N咁多次
皇家馬德里 11-12 終於達成昇華, 絕非之前兩季可以相提並論
哩點關乎實力及通常表現, 絕非純粹數獎盃及統計
於是我早就講明, 我做好心理準備, 我地今季可能 "差過上季", 即係國王盃衛冕失敗, 一無所有 ...

If time could go back
with the money of C.Ron (you dont like him) and Kaka (i guess perez did not spend a fortune of the 60-70% Kaka)...
who would you buy??

捷克NeVeD子彈

原帖由 Liverman 於 2012-1-9  08:58 PM 發表
我又傾向覺得費侯尼係成日會o係鏡頭出現但實際上冇乜野做到既普通料

agree

橙色力量

原帖由 截拳道小子 於 2012-1-10  03:20 AM 發表
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邊度有票數分析？

Raul_Gonzalez

原帖由 Gianni Rivera 於 2012-1-10  09:32 發表

If time could go back
with the money of C.Ron (you dont like him) and Kaka (i guess perez did not spend a fortune of the 60-70% Kaka)...
who would you buy??

09-10
我記得我玩 WE
要 DV7 + 馬達
盜亦有盜地俾希古恩相反方向轉會 (加上德倫菲同拉屎)
仲有我唔會簽迪馬利亞同卡卡
要史葛.柏加 (借或買都好)
etc.
但
時至今日
我唔係好願再返轉頭諗哩個問題

橙色力量

Jonathan Wilson - The Question: Will the three-year rule do for Barcelona?
In his fourth season at the club Pep Guardiola is attempting to buck the trend and extend the European champions' success

"The third year," the great Hungarian coach Bela Guttmann always said, "is fatal." If a manager stays at a club more than that, he said, his players tend to become bored and/or complacent and opponents start to work out counter-strategies. There are occasional exceptions, especially in weaker leagues, but at the highest level it seems to hold true that great teams last a maximum of three years – which is why Barcelona's draw against Espanyol on Saturday may be more significant than just two dropped points. This, after all, is Pep Guardiola's fourth season as a manager at the Camp Nou.

...

橙色力量

原帖由 Raul_Gonzalez 於 2012-1-10  11:16 PM 發表
09-10
我記得我玩 WE
要 DV7 + 馬達
盜亦有盜地俾希古恩相反方向轉會 (加上德倫菲同拉屎)
仲有我唔會簽迪馬利亞同卡卡
要史葛.柏加 (借或買都好)
etc.
但
時至今日
我唔係好願再返轉頭諗哩個問題

唔簽埋DS21同PH19？

Raul_Gonzalez

最後一段:

There is a poignant moment in Provided You Don't Kiss Me in which Duncan Hamilton recalls meeting Peter Taylor outside the dressing room in the Bernabéu shortly after Nottingham Forest have beaten Hamburg to retain the European Cup. Taylor, Hamilton said, was like Jay Gatsby, thinking of future glories while realising that the dream was already slipping away. Barcelona seem to be in a similar position now. If they can kick on, if they can overcome Guttmann's three-year rule, then their achievement will be truly historic; if it does all slip away, then they will merely have been another excellent team.


我唔需要將哩個 argue 扯到太遠

-[回帶] 哥帥已經盡可能為巴卡夢三帶來變化注入新鮮感, 喺主旨不改 (其實係沒甚可改) 嘅大前提之下

-假設巴卡夢三今季將於西甲及／或歐冠盃衛冕失敗, 無論哥帥季後離隊與否, 巴卡夢三應否自我了結? (冇錯, 我絕不認為佢地會因今季一無所有而被就此了結) 還是真係換帥就達成下一次昇華? (諗一諗, 我個心寒一寒)

-講近d, 平心而論, 巴卡夢三真有轉衰之勢? (有別於好多人, 我唔係純粹以獎盃論英雄) (記得哥迪奧拿講過d乜嗎? 巴卡夢三並不保證贏得任何獎盃..我相信哩條線路我地係搭得上囉)

-哥帥一旦離去, 繼任者的確有可能係唔駛揹延續巴卡踢法取向嘅包袱, 咁就有可能出現 "巴卡夢三自我了結" 喇, 但講極都係有可能咋


巴卡粉 (我冇特指任何人) 戒慎恐懼, 係有個譜抑或冇極限?

"未發生的意外　懶理它更自在"..

Raul_Gonzalez

原帖由 橙色力量 於 2012-1-11  00:23 發表


唔簽埋DS21同PH19？

說真的
我選擇不簽他們

Raul_Gonzalez

[公開私人對話]

昨日同 中村俊輔@HKCM 喺 FB 傾波提及
我寧可馬拉加淘汰我地而唔係喺八強兩場西班牙打吡之後我地先出局衛冕國王盃失敗
我著眼點係我地士氣受挫嘅程度, 復原甚或只求恢復到七八九成嘅難度, 以及此消以外最好冇彼長..

對格拉納達賽前, 摩連奴話明今季想贏西甲冠軍 (改寫紀錄, 第32次) 多於捧歐冠盃 (改寫紀錄, 第10次)
我有冇喺度講過? 我早就抱同一想法喎..

奇連士文再生

原帖由 橙色力量 於 2012-1-11  12:19 AM 發表
Jonathan Wilson - The Question: Will the three-year rule do for Barcelona?
In his fourth season at the club Pep Guardiola is attempting to buck the trend and extend the European champions' success

"T ...

費Sir/希斯菲特 = 例外?

Raul_Gonzalez

原帖由 奇連士文再生 於 2012-1-11  01:01 發表

費Sir/希斯菲特 = 例外?

十年前希斯菲特係止於聯賽三連冠之後更替拜仁慕尼黑部份(半)主力人腳

TZZero

原帖由 奇連士文再生 於 2012-1-11 01:01 發表

費Sir/希斯菲特 = 例外?

Man Utd 都未試過連攞 4 屆 Premiership

奇連士文再生

原帖由 Raul_Gonzalez 於 2012-1-11  01:08 AM 發表


十年前希斯菲特係止於聯賽三連冠之後更替拜仁慕尼黑部份(半)主力人腳

可能大家著眼點唔同
我既著眼點係個Manager能否在留隊超過3 年的情況下繼續成功並使球會成為皇朝, 而唔係第4年成唔成功
篇野個Counter Example都係費Sir