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 樓主| 發表於 2013-5-21 21:22:55 | 顯示全部樓層
本帖最後由 Raul_Gonzalez 於 2013-5-21 22:17 編輯
1.  可以點變? 有咩風聲?

2.  我反而覺得係個好既刺激--- 今年其實已經無左鬥志
Zero 發表於 2013-5-21 18:49


吞拜仁慕尼黑七蛋之後
已傳亢奮到想打包尼馬同伊斯高 (被放棄人等就另議)

只怪我地太早確認無以為繼...自己一直谷唔起仲間接害巴卡夢三未能適時谷起
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 樓主| 發表於 2013-5-21 21:50:55 | 顯示全部樓層
本帖最後由 Raul_Gonzalez 於 2013-5-21 22:26 編輯

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係摩連奴決意賭哩鋪大,寧可自我了結去季曾經好有說服力嘅團結隊伍,去滿足佢追求大權(哪怕只有過程冇好結果),亦將佢本來令球員樂於為佢賣命嘅人格魅力消滅殆盡

[摘錄 Phil Ball 系列]
(May 20, 2013)
For such an intelligent man, a coach who has prided himself on his ability to motivate over the years, Mourinho's post-match performance spoke volumes for his present state of dysfunction. "I have failed," he announced, focusing, as usual, on himself. The problem with his subsequent speech was that basing this fracaso (failure) on a lack of trophies over his three seasons was one of the dumbest things I've ever heard an intelligent man say. Up to that point, I liked Mourinho. Now I'm beginning to wonder, too. Surely his failure resides in the fact that he has left the club in spiritual tatters, with the motivation mark invisible, well below the water-line? The unhappiness that surrounds the club represents his failure, not the poor trophy count. (再回帶一次: 何輝上月先再提出過雲格沒能激發球員為佢賣命, 而精此道理實乃摩連奴...佢冇講錯, 只不過亦正因如此, 摩連奴本季極度失敗, 可能已到達個人事業最低點) It's not all the teacher's fault, but he has failed to control the difficult kids.

Atletico, on the other hand, had Simeone standing on the touchline for the whole game, shouting encouragement, adjusting players' positions, applauding - in short, motivating. It's hard to like Atletico (Exactly! 施蒙尼教哩隊馬會肯定遠不如佢十幾年前踢嗰隊馬會咁得我鐘意), but it's a good job they won on Friday - not only for themselves, but also for Real Madrid. One day, Madrid will look back on that game and realise that it was a turning point. Had they won, things would have been more complicated for them; now they can end the Mourinho era and look forward to some sort of less tension-filled future. (望係咁望)
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發表於 2013-5-21 22:10:00 | 顯示全部樓層
1.  可以點變? 有咩風聲?

2.  我反而覺得係個好既刺激--- 今年其實已經無左鬥志 ...
Zero 發表於 2013-5-21 18:49



    摩連奴無工作




重返車路士不如重返魯營
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 樓主| 發表於 2013-5-21 22:11:08 | 顯示全部樓層
本帖最後由 Raul_Gonzalez 於 2013-5-21 22:14 編輯

以下是一位著名皇家蘇斯達粉(又)講佢支持的球隊
冇興趣可以唔睇

Real Sociedad are a case in point. I've resisted writing too much about them this season, for obvious reasons, but the theme of motivation gives me a good excuse. Besides, their scrap for the fourth spot in the Champions League with Valencia is about the only thing that can keep us interested for the next two weeks, apart from the identity of the three teams that go down, and Barcelona's pursuit of a 100-point tally.

The strange thing about Real Sociedad - a club that only came out of administration a year ago, and whose annual budget is still considerably less than the three sides above them and the one chasing them - is that they seem to be on the verge of losing their manager, Philippe Montanier. Questioned for the whole of his first season, and saved from the sack by a spectacular winner at Betis by centre-back Inigo Martinez last season, Montanier is now regarded as the big new thing back in his native France having attracted attention for his success in La Liga, where not many French coaches have made an impact.

The San Sebastian public have taken the news this week that he has been made an offer by the far richer Rennes with a Gallic shrug. This is because there are two views about Montanier. One is that he got lucky and inherited a squad of talented young players about to mature and take the league by storm. They think he remains tactically naive and that, with a better manager, Sociedad would have the Champions League place sewn up by now. The other view is that he is a masterful man-manager, quiet and unassuming, and that he has built a unity among the players that has been the principal factor in their transformation this season. We're back to the motivation factor.

I must say that I was among the ranks of the doubters. But, little by little, news has filtered through from contacts and friends of players, and it suggests the squad really rates him. They like his calmness, his obsessive insistence on a possession-movement game and his seeming unflappability. He also has no ego problems, and has changed several very ordinary players (Carlos Martinez, Alberto de La Bella, Markel Bergara, Imanol Agirretxe) into major La Liga figures ( ), almost overnight. Surely, this is the kind of guy you want in the long term.

I'm surprised now that Real Sociedad are prepared to let him go without a fight. If he does, then I suppose Unai Emery might be persuaded to come home. Emery was in charge of Sevilla on Saturday night, and watched his team outplayed and out-thought by the visitors, restored to winning ways by the return of the pea-mountain, Asier Illarramendi.

剛領西維爾倒戈反負其踢球時期母會皇家蘇斯達, 艾梅利被傳來季有望回家做主帥 (只不過他不算是該會名宿), 前提係蒙坦尼亞 (傳說中的巴卡夢三信徒) 果真回其祖國法國執教雷恩

Emery is a student of motivation and has a decent record, although there are those who accuse him of talking too much and not listening enough. He may be tempted to take on this squad, with the collective promise of Antoine Griezmann, Ruben Pardo, Inigo Martinez, Carlos Vela and Illarramendi too tempting to resist. But the point remains: among the five players in the previous sentence, there are two or three potentially difficult chaps. Under a less intelligent manager, they might not be where they are today - on the verge of greatness.
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古都 發表於 2013-5-21 22:05



    宋
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 樓主| 發表於 2013-5-21 22:12:13 | 顯示全部樓層
摩連奴無工作




重返車路士不如重返魯營
截拳道小子 發表於 2013-5-21 22:10


我都想睇哩一幕
但似乎只能夠係我地惡搞想像
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 樓主| 發表於 2013-5-21 22:12:54 | 顯示全部樓層

~~Miguel~~ 發表於 2013-5-21 22:11


關家姐d frd
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 樓主| 發表於 2013-5-21 22:13:43 | 顯示全部樓層
By the way, I was watching my son try out at centre-back against a big hairy team from the regional 'Preferente' level early on Friday evening, and got talking to a man from Mutriku, Illarremendi's home town. The legendary father of my Friday-night friend was organising the team my son was guesting for (it was a friendly), and he 'discovered' Illaramendi some years ago. I asked if the player was on his way to Barcelona next season. "No way," the chap told me. "I was with him last week in Mutriku. He's happy at Sociedad, because he can go and see his mates when he wants to, and go back to Mutriku.

"He's not interested in the glamour thing. He's got a crappy little car and he's happy with it. He said that he doesn't want to go to Barcelona or Madrid and be hounded by Marca every weekend, and then get criticised and overanalysed. He's happy here. Besides, he likes Montanier."

It seems odd that the player most likely to succeed Xavi or Xabi Alonso (take your pick) in the next two to three years says he will stay at Sociedad because it means he can still go and chew the fat with his mates from his two-horse town during the week. It was an interesting insight into how some players think, as the rain pelted down onto the heads of a team of wise semi-pros and a team of motivated youngsters, trying to prove a point.

The man's chatter clashed with how I imagined players thought, ever ambitious, ever motivated to climb the steps to fame and fortune. Illarramendi says he's happy where he is. You read it here first.

Phil Ball 又提下佢個仔, 順便繼續幫伊拿藍文迪賣廣告
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發表於 2013-5-21 22:17:47 | 顯示全部樓層
吞拜仁慕尼黑七蛋之後
已傳亢奮到想打包尼馬同伊斯高 (被放棄人等就另議)

只怪我地太早確認無以為繼... ...
Raul_Gonzalez 發表於 2013-5-21 21:22


Neymar去巴賽我反而覺得OK
反正球王都係要霸住9號位去刷數據
叫Neymar專心打邊好過

簽Isco不如說服法比留隊吧啦
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發表於 2013-5-21 22:17:52 | 顯示全部樓層
差D唔記得恭喜法比第一個聯賽冠軍!!!!!!
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 樓主| 發表於 2013-5-21 22:21:57 | 顯示全部樓層
本帖最後由 Raul_Gonzalez 於 2013-5-22 02:54 編輯
Neymar去巴賽我反而覺得OK
反正球王都係要霸住9號位去刷數據
叫Neymar專心打邊好過

簽Isco不如說服法比 ...
Zero 發表於 2013-5-21 22:17


其實我早喺度講過尼馬接替 DV7 踢左前鋒合情合理, 唉

於我, 伊斯高同小白慣踢位置重疊, 但可以是但一人踢左前鋒

即係巴卡夢三(以至夢四)可以更豪華輪玩


法比加斯?
先不論有風聲佢將被賣走代表d乜
佢留隊是可以的, 只不過佢未必夠爽 (其實泰亞高.艾簡達拉更要思考一下哩個問題)
而喺巴卡夢三陣上佢幾可肯定只踢中路
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發表於 2013-5-21 22:28:19 | 顯示全部樓層
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係摩連奴決意賭哩鋪大,寧可自我了結去季曾經好有說服力嘅團結隊伍,去滿足 ...
Raul_Gonzalez 發表於 2013-5-21 21:50


其實我覺得摩神係想挑戰皇馬更衣室傳統, 令領隊權力大於球員
但最終失敗
上年既成功係佢同隊內各方勢力妥協既成果
但老實講我唔覺得呢種"妥協"可以長久維持
摩神想改變呢樣野證明佢係想Long Term做呢份工
亦遮係話佢季初已經預左失敗--->Bye

我係個相信領隊>球員, 一支真心聽領隊指揮既球隊先係真正強隊既人, 我依然支持摩神去做呢d所謂既"權鬥"
因為唔咁做, 永遠只會有冠軍, 而唔會有皇朝
唯一可惜既係, 如果係下年先開戰, 事情發展可能會係另一回事

我個人已經抱持花生友狀態睇皇馬下年點死
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 樓主| 發表於 2013-5-21 22:41:25 | 顯示全部樓層
本帖最後由 Raul_Gonzalez 於 2013-5-22 09:19 編輯

摩連奴想得到嘅大權在握效果, 也許喺英超做 manager 先較易實行到 (但終究有 "上司", 亦要 "上司" 妥協由得佢為所欲為) (喺皇家馬德里佢已將自己變成職能上疑似一人之下啦, 只係人心不再歸向佢嘛)
佢心知肚明玩到咁大不成功便成仁係一回事, 佢漠視以至親手摧毀球隊本季發展係另一回事, 這是我難以原諒的

我唔肯定主帥係咪必須強勢過個別球員以至整支球隊先會成功, 或者因為見證過當年迪波斯基之受尊重愛戴可以並非個人特意爭取得來的
轉教第隊第個背景環境再試下囉, 有機會可以如摩連奴所願強勢領導

只不過, 皇朝之形成總需要團結, 人事管理錯得如此重大已經係彌補唔到嘅遺憾
哩點可能主席大人比摩連奴更早理解深刻, 因為佢當年所犯過錯親手了結皇家馬德里最近一個皇朝

我都只能開花生模式鳥

來季就係我作為皇家馬德里支持者廿週年紀念球季
但真係費事抱有期望
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發表於 2013-5-22 12:41:37 | 顯示全部樓層
Raul兄, 唔係唔明白你既意思,
但我唔想用迪波斯基黎比較
原因?
作為一個"球霸"
魯爾比卡斯拿斯好幾千萬倍
我可以容忍一個權力大於自己但願意為左球隊利益願意犧牲"接近"一切既球員
我永遠接受唔到一個為左個人利益竟然出賣更衣室秘密(重要係定期)黎製造麻煩既球員
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 樓主| 發表於 2013-5-22 20:58:35 | 顯示全部樓層
本帖最後由 Raul_Gonzalez 於 2013-5-22 22:22 編輯
Raul兄, 唔係唔明白你既意思,
但我唔想用迪波斯基黎比較
原因?
作為一個"球霸"
魯爾比卡斯拿斯好幾千萬倍
我可以容忍一個權力大於自己但願意為左球隊利益願意犧牲"接近"一切既球員
我永遠接受唔到一個為左個人利益竟然出賣更衣室秘密(重要係定期)黎製造麻煩既球員
Zero 發表於 2013-5-22 12:41


咁我都知零兄你所指何事...

卡斯拿斯有唔著, 摩連奴都啱唔晒...
打從最初 "唔傾向由門將做隊長", 繼而要統一口徑話明係 "客觀的足球上的原因" 當時艾丹好過卡斯拿斯, 絕對係攞嚟講
到後來咁啱俾佢搵到個符合佢要求款式嘅門將 (事實上好多人都話迪亞高.盧比斯似施治喎...), 都仲等一大輪先敢坦白講 "這才是我喜歡的守門員! 有我在都由他踢首發!"
對卡斯拿斯的打壓正式進行到底 (儘管將以摩連奴自己先行離隊作結), 而這本已是為進行權鬥就置球隊利益大前提於不顧的決定 (後來結果是後話)

也許卡斯拿斯真有不下一次出主意經由 Sara 的工作途徑去宣洩
但於我這一切都是摩連奴處心積慮已久想要奪取大權的後續事件

造成如此難看的收場, 卡斯拿斯同摩連奴都有不是
同樣關乎自我地位, 但說到底, 卡斯拿斯只不過要想保留他這些年努力應得的 (其實就算經歷此下半季他仍能成功保留吧, 我相信他難以落得魯爾的下場, 只因他遠未至於 "也許真的是時候該離開了" 的地步), 摩連奴想做到的卻是其實沒必要的重大變動 (並容許場下事件影響士氣以至場上表現, 這不正是跟他成功登頂時期的處事手法背道而馳嗎?) (當然, 這終究是他的一次豪賭)

我當然不能亦不會一面倒批評或支持其中一人
事實上我作為這兩人的粉也太多年了
這一亂事真不是味兒
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 樓主| 發表於 2013-5-22 21:07:53 | 顯示全部樓層
比歷堅尼確認將離職馬拉加, 但未落實將上任曼城
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 樓主| 發表於 2013-5-22 21:10:04 | 顯示全部樓層
本帖最後由 Raul_Gonzalez 於 2013-5-22 21:18 編輯

Leo Messi says he does not know if Neymar will join Barcelona this summer, but he hopes it does happen.

美斯說: "而我不知道尼馬是...不是將於今夏加盟巴卡, 但我希望成事."
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發表於 2013-5-22 21:19:17 | 顯示全部樓層
比歷堅尼確認將離職馬拉加, 但未落實將上任曼城
Raul_Gonzalez 發表於 2013-5-22 21:07



  球迷之福啦
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 樓主| 發表於 2013-5-22 21:20:39 | 顯示全部樓層
球迷之福啦
古都 發表於 2013-5-22 21:19


未落實
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