Kobe Bryant 是否太大負擔?

ronalliu

I now find Kobe got a great pressure...at the past he still could believe O'neal but now...O'neal has gone...he is the most able one to get points...And we could see dat only Lakers won when Kobe got high points...recently...Kobe is no good...do u think Lakers should buy sb to share the pressure???

cnwong

你伸延我們的罵戰到這裡了

orphenus

Originally posted by ronalliu at 21-3-2005 07:24 PM:
I now find Kobe got a great pressure...at the past he still could believe O'neal but now...O'neal has gone...he is the most able one to get points...And we could see dat only Lakers won when Kobe  ...

無可否認，kobe今年係打得辛苦好多
比起佢最top fit o既02-03年，
佢得分、籃板、命中率、3分、偷波都下跌，
就算比佢上年都係退步左(但佢上年上陣時間少d)，
最最最大o既危機係佢turnover急升，
由前年3.51至上年2.63，到今年4.08，
亦係佢職業生涯新高

steal亦係佢一大退步，
今季每場只有1.31，
仲低過佢98-99年果季(1.41)
(佢第一年打正選，當年一場只有19.9分)
更加唔好同03-04巔峰期比(2.21)

orphenus

上季三個來自miami o既球員，
被寄予厚望o既odom亦表現失色，
無咩進步之餘，仲要退步
得分由上年17.1跌到今年15.2，
上陣時間亦無增加，談不上係主力球員(只有36.3分鐘)

butler係打得好d o既一個，得分有進步(9.2-->14.2)
但其他都無咩點變

至於brian grant，我真係有d唔明點解上陣時間會咁少，
今季佢上陣時間、得分、籃板都跌左一半，
到底係佢唔適合湖人打法、有傷定狀態唔好，我真係唔知，
但肯定係一個浪費

湖人除左kobe之外，基本上無一個2哥，係一件不爭事實

Hakkinen

Originally posted by orphenus at 2005-3-21 08:48 PM:
上季三個來自miami o既球員，
被寄予厚望o既odom亦表現失色，
無咩進步之餘，仲要退步
得分由上年17.1跌到今年15.2，
上陣時間亦無增加，談不上係主力球員(只有36.3分鐘)

butler係打得好d o既一個，得分有 ...

Odom o係湖人既角色同o係熱火既角色好唔同,一日未搵到佢自己o係場上既角色,一日見到佢o係場上都會好唔自在,上年o係熱火,佢同wade 兩個無分高低,邊個好d 邊個就拎住個波,今季黎到湖人,高比所佔既攻勢佔上大多數,odom 淪為同butler,atkins 以及其他球員一樣,成為配角,如果佢o個場開賽表現唔好,絕大多數都會繼續落去,因為冇機會俾佢去再嘗試,個波只會落在其他隊友手上,久而久之失去信心,有波都會傳...
Kobe 無疑係一個好球員,但佢同上季/再之前就差好遠,某程度上可以講佢係因為冇左奧尼爾,一個佢可能唔喜歡但球場上佢會去信任既球員,今季奧尼爾走左之後,高比冇左佢既傳波目標,好大時候都自己發動同了結個攻勢,對球隊係好大影響,高比所佔攻勢越多,得分就越多,但球隊贏波既機會反而減少,因為對手只要緊盯高比就可以,呢個時候叫其他球員起手就只會成為對方既籃板...要成為一個出色既球員,唔單止要自己表現好,仲要令球場上其他4名隊友表現好先得

cnwong

Originally posted by Hakkinen at 2005-3-21 21:30:

Odom o係湖人既角色同o係熱火既角色好唔同,一日未搵到佢自己o係場上既角色,一日見到佢o係場上都會好唔自在,上年o係熱火,佢同wade 兩個無分高低,邊個好d 邊個就拎住個波,今季黎到湖人,高比所佔既攻勢佔上大多數 ...

贊同

orphenus

Originally posted by Hakkinen at 21-3-2005 09:30 PM:

Odom o係湖人既角色同o係熱火既角色好唔同,一日未搵到佢自己o係場上既角色,一日見到佢o係場上都會好唔自在,上年o係熱火,佢同wade 兩個無分高低,邊個好d 邊個就拎住個波,今季黎到湖人,高比所佔既攻勢佔上大多數 ...

令我諗起jordan rule~

更玄妙咁講，係化學作用問題
如果o'neal今季話要做大佬，死唔交波，
wade又點會打到識飛咁

AI3

Originally posted by orphenus at 2005-3-21 09:54 PM:



令我諗起jordan rule~

更玄妙咁講，係化學作用問題
如果o'neal今季話要做大佬，死唔交波，
wade又點會打到識飛咁

唔止wade
其他球員都好左好多

PolyMan~~

仲有，湖人最弱既位置係pg

Atkins唔係一個'floor general'

T. Brown明顯唔夠班

如果有一個擅於策動快攻既pg (Kidd, Ford之類）

Kobe, Butler係進攻會有更大發揮～

星影

Odom今季由一個全能球員變成一個籃板球員...

同埋樓上的唔可以只係睇統計數字
kobe TO多左係因為最大進攻點得返佢一個
以前有shaq令到man make既時候唔可以整係理一個人
加上無左內線支援所有數值自然低
Odom得分低既原因係基本上進攻點係Kobe度
Brian Grant得分能力極差係佢唔受重用既原因之一
而且佢既角色大部分比Odom代替左

星影

Originally posted by PolyMan~~ at 21-3-2005 22:18:
仲有，湖人最弱既位置係pg

Atkins唔係一個'floor general'

T. Brown明顯唔夠班

如果有一個擅於策動快攻既pg (Kidd, Ford之類）

Kobe, Butler係進攻會有更大發揮～

基本上Lakers而家係唔準既射手隊..
C同PG都有問題
不過照而家咁打Lakers有PG都無用
因為波始終都係Kobe手上

利迷阿稹

真的苦惱自尋

ronalliu

如果 teammates 勁 D 既話,我霖都會有多 pass...We should think at his side...just like Lakers vs Sonic...He did some pass...but butler always miss...that makes him think he is not reliable...so he prefer to attack by himself...都唔怪得佢．．．

Manu super fans

Originally posted by ronalliu at 2005-3-22 06:55 PM:
都唔怪得佢．．．

可圈可點............

cnwong

Originally posted by ronalliu at 2005-3-22 18:55:
如果 teammates 勁 D 既話,我霖都會有多 pass...We should think at his side...just like Lakers vs Sonic...He did some pass...but butler always miss...that makes him think he is not reliable...so he ...

講黎講去
你都係堅持自己既觀點
Odom呢? 佢應該係值得信任嫁, 不過高比仔一路都冇信任佢, 佢越來越冇信心, 得分越來越少, 高比就更加唔會去信任佢
卡朗畢拿命中率其實算唔錯嫁啦, 咁高比仔射波係唔係球球都入先?
搞下搞下, 艾堅斯為左有d表演機會, 差唔多次次都係自己亂掟3分, 入就入, 唔入就唔入,   如果唔係, 佢可能連射波機會都冇

小弟愚見, 十句有九句錯, 請指正

射手shooter

我不否認Kobe的實力,但係冇帶起隊友的能力

SamiHyyyyyyyia

Originally posted by 射手shooter at 2005-3-22 10:11 PM:
我不否認Kobe的實力,但係冇帶起隊友的能力

同感，無leadership~

SamiHyyyyyyyia

Originally posted by Sami Hyyyyyyyia at 2005-3-22 11:07 PM:


同感，唔夠 leadership~

古都

奧當唔係主力??

orphenus

Originally posted by 古都 at 22-3-2005 11:16 PM:
奧當唔係主力??

佢今季o既表現唔係

我總覺得湖人今季o既問題係，
成隊波好似唔係好夾咁

其實有kobe呢種球員，
應該盡量拉空俾佢一打一，
俾一個好o既外圍射手，
然後搵多兩個球員做dirty work(例如防守、搶進攻籃板...等)，
最好o既當然俾多個質素高o既球員佢啦，
等佢狀態唔好時，有多個保障