香港音樂事業好唔掂之我見

疾峰

Originally posted by yuren at 2005-7-16 01:58 AM:
有d人依然偏面咁憎香港樂壇
我成日都覺得
好歌要發掘
twins都有好歌
joey都有好歌
謝霆鋒都有好歌
董敏莉都有好歌
2R都有好歌
李籠兒都有好歌
陳文媛都有好歌
只不過
有時佢地唱得差d姐
但首歌本身係 ...

同意~
所以我唔鍾意d人講hk popd歌唔得
係佢地容納唔到其他音樂~
佢地鍾意metal就只認為metal先係音樂~
呢d人先唔識音樂~

AirKID

Originally posted by 疾峰 at 2005-7-16 02:07:


同意~
所以我唔鍾意d人講hk popd歌唔得
係佢地容納唔到其他音樂~
佢地鍾意metal就只認為metal先係音樂~
呢d人先唔識音樂~

咁又唔可以咁講既
不過大家各有各愛好
其實唔需要批評對方既music
你唔使講你唔聽邊種歌
心知咪得羅~

疾峰

Originally posted by AirKID at 2005-7-16 02:09 AM:


咁又唔可以咁講既
不過大家各有各愛好
其實唔需要批評對方既music
你唔使講你唔聽邊種歌
心知咪得羅~

但個d唔係咁ma~~
某forum d人令我......

AirKID

Originally posted by 疾峰 at 2005-7-16 02:12:

但個d唔係咁ma~~
某forum d人令我......

咁我都見過唔少
某d人好莫名其妙地仇恨而家港式情歌

疾峰

Originally posted by AirKID at 2005-7-16 02:13 AM:


咁我都見過唔少
某d人好莫名其妙地仇恨而家港式情歌

yes~~

雖然我都唔太同意太多情歌
但係~~情歌的確可以令好多年青人有共鳴~

hehe0114

Originally posted by AirKID at 2005-7-16 02:13 AM:


咁我都見過唔少
某d人好莫名其妙地仇恨而家港式情歌

能包容各方既先係懂音樂

疾峰

Originally posted by hehe0114 at 2005-7-16 02:16 AM:


能包容各方既先係懂音樂

又未必係懂音樂~
但係最基本係尊重囉~

HackerWong

有d K情歌會令年青人養成消極悲觀小男人ge情懷
對社會未來唔好

HackerWong

Originally posted by AirKID at 16-7-05 02:13 AM:


咁我都見過唔少
某d人好莫名其妙地仇恨而家港式情歌

佢地要懶係'high class'ar ma..

Erlkoing上的KK

其實我又覺得情歌無乜問題....只係暫時d詞d情感太露.....
又講classical...d歌其實好多都係情歌...
有好多既masterpiece如mozart的「費加羅的婚禮」講的更加是非常荒淫....

至於k歌方面...其實我都係覺得無問題...
唔知幾耐之前聽過一個post話k歌=旋律容易入耳 的歌...
那麼太多k歌 = 太多旋律容易入耳的歌...就唔好???
雖然係咁...不過多d種類既歌都好既...

話唱歌係咪創作....我個人就唔覺得係...我覺得係「演繹」...
不過我覺得當奇所講又岩boh
所以....
我只係覺得只係大家對「創作」的定義不同ja~

當然啦....香港pop音樂是這樣...的主要原因係market gwa....???

AirKID

Originally posted by HackerWong at 2005-7-16 02:54:
有d K情歌會令年青人養成消極悲觀小男人ge情懷
對社會未來唔好

近兩年都冇左小春個種慘絕人寰既失戀王情歌出現啦
而且唔單止係男仔歌悲
女仔歌都係咁
因為寫情歌始終寫悲情較易發揮同有共嗚

HackerWong

Originally posted by AirKID at 16-7-05 03:01 AM:


近兩年都冇左小春個種慘絕人寰既失戀王情歌出現啦
而且唔單止係男仔歌悲
女仔歌都係咁
因為寫情歌始終寫悲情較易發揮同有共嗚

我有個friend話<七友>呢一類ge songs...
聽得多真係會變"七友"ga..

悲情都可以無咁小男人ga je..

HackerWong

Originally posted by Erlkoing上的KK at 16-7-05 02:56 AM:
其實我又覺得情歌無乜問題....只係暫時d詞d情感太露.....
又講classical...d歌其實好多都係情歌...
有好多既masterpiece如mozart的「費加羅的婚禮」講的更加是非常荒淫....

費加羅的婚禮不是喜劇嗎?

HackerWong

Originally posted by Erlkoing上的KK at 16-7-05 02:56 AM:
至於k歌方面...其實我都係覺得無問 ...

順耳=K song??
好多pop,rock,country,folk,Hip Hop,Classical都好順耳ga wor..
so i dont think this defination is right..

to me..
K歌=無難度,題材大眾化(千篇一律)既歌
現時Karaoke係HK好流行..會買HK albums既人多數都唱K
要顧住班人+方便宣傳...唱片公司咪狂出K songs lor..
so..i agree with u係market demand ge問題

歌手質素同意願又係一個factor
HK好好好多歌手都唱唔到有難度ge songs...咪唱K songs lor...
點解d model可以做歌手?? 咪又係market demand ge問題
and 之前方力坤係magazine interview話."我好鐘意+想carry on唱K歌"
咁你仲可以點??

futhermore.. HK d leading composer同填詞來來去去個幾個..
佢地又無Mozart既天才..+上一個月要嘔10幾20件products出黎..
唔千篇一律就怪

杰少仔

2R

Erlkoing上的KK

Originally posted by HackerWong at 2005-7-16 03:07 AM:


費加羅的婚禮不是喜劇嗎?

但故事很荒淫ma...marriage of figaro係opera......

Erlkoing上的KK

Originally posted by HackerWong at 2005-7-16 03:20 AM:


順耳=K song??
好多pop,rock,country,folk,Hip Hop,Classical都好順耳ga wor..
so i dont think this defination is right..

to me..
K歌=無難度,題材大眾化(千篇一律)既歌
現時Karaoke係HK好流行..會 ...

所以我一開始就唔覺得哩一個係definition...
但係更加覺得k歌的def好模糊......

gum我又唔覺k歌係無難度既..........(至少對我好有難度, 我的range是a2 to e4 )
題材亦未必係大眾化......只係這詞因karaoke而命名的吧
所以我先覺得k歌無乜def....
所以先覺得無乜問題~~~(其實d音樂都係style問題, 以前音樂未發展時都係得來來去去幾個style...haydn作d 104個symphony頭o個d都係o個d style....mozart雖然作得多, 但係 d style都係差唔多啦...無乜特別突破)

market demand....唉...

hk leading pop composer.....我唔知啦.....但係根本hk pops o個d form...都唔多...連harmony...progression...都係差唔多...
好似好多pops都差不多一定有副歌(modified strophic form)...
然後副歌的高潮位靠音高來上...通常成首野最高音係副歌(所以我幾欣賞小城大事..)..

至於真係hk其他composers..好似richard tsang, 陳永華, gwilt..o個d...就唔知lu..

faister

Originally posted by 國米+利物浦=王 at 15-7-2005 11:27 PM:

邊間呀

慈幼..

faister

Originally posted by HackerWong at 15-7-2005 07:27 PM:


he is a good singer....lack of professional attitude though..

佢o甘錫住把聲.. 我都錫住"荷包"..

Yoshiki

Originally posted by Erlkoing上的KK at 2005-7-16 09:33:

hk leading pop composer.....我唔知啦.....但係根本hk pops o個d form...都唔多...連harmony...progression...都係差唔多...
好似好多pops都差不多一定有副歌(modified strophic form)...
然後副歌的高潮位靠音高來上...通常成首野最高音係副歌(所以我幾欣賞小城大事..)..

好似跳唔出個框咁~
同埋k歌同其他歌係香港係超級唔balance
好可能係樂壇容納唔到佢地鐘意既歌~
自自然會插樂壇上最多既k歌
有邊個想自己聽聽下歌比人一野整熄你部機?
感覺同比人歧視冇咩分別

但係k歌愈出愈濫真係一個問題~
寫歌既~又要顧住個歌手唱唔唱到~又要易上口~又要趕住交貨
開始將music變&#21655;做goods
基本上已經冇咩時間比你慢慢砌
除非冇曬demand

有時d歌真係寫到你聽chorus頭一句跟住就估到之後個句d音