NBA PLAYOFF 2011

giggs903

擔心熱火之後乜都無既真係想得太多...其實某情度上今年佢地都算去得俾想像中遠,下年真正夾熟..
如果下年又真係停,D老鬼應該都退一班,都好難唔係佢地世界

giggs903

原帖由 Dioray 於 2011-6-13  02:43 PM 發表
james輸左仲要咁講野…

佢身邊d公關團隊點做野o架

佢目中無人都唔係今日既事黎架喇

giggs903

原帖由 Hakkinen 於 2011-6-13  02:44 PM 發表
HARD CAP 低左, 係令佢地連MLE, 甚至MINIMUM 都簽唔到, WORST CASE 可能要拆夥先可以成隊

詳情其實唔係好清楚.依方面一向唔係太明係點
.但好似好多隊爆得仲勁過佢地嘛..印象中LA果D好似爆得多過佢地多多聲...佢地依D問題其他隊都一樣有者

Smithy

原帖由 截拳道小子 於 2011-6-13  01:00 PM 發表

由佢未出道已經唔順到而家

佢未出道你就識佢咁X勁?

Smithy

原帖由 Hakkinen 於 2011-6-13  02:30 PM 發表

09/10 vs Bos. Gm.5
10/11 vs Mavs Gm.4, 5, 6

where was he?
He doesn't even want the ball in Q4

er..其實係咪個個都仲以Jordan既style睇佢, 要下下轟30+兼take埋last shot先似樣?
我當佢Magic咁睇會好得多囉, 如果上場贏波既個triple-double實比人捧到上天
話時話係咪個個legend級既球員都有有killer instinct先成事

熱刺#29戴維斯

古賓先生

henrytam

原帖由 Hakkinen 於 2011-6-13  02:44 PM 發表
HARD CAP 低左, 係令佢地連MLE, 甚至MINIMUM 都簽唔到, WORST CASE 可能要拆夥先可以成隊

你意思係熱火唔肯俾稅?
如果唔肯俾稅真係幫佢地唔到了

Penny仔

原帖由 henrytam 於 2011-6-13  04:50 PM 發表

你意思係熱火唔肯俾稅?
如果唔肯俾稅真係幫佢地唔到了

如果行hard cap就有錢都冇用喇
不過到時先算啦

henrytam

原帖由 Smithy 於 2011-6-13  04:16 PM 發表

er..其實係咪個個都仲以Jordan既style睇佢, 要下下轟30+兼take埋last shot先似樣?
我當佢Magic咁睇會好得多囉, 如果上場贏波既個triple-double實比人捧到上天
話時話係咪個個legend級既球員都有有killer instinct先 ...

killer instinct其實都係有
就算係騎士時都試過唔少臨尾爆分殺上
今次頭3場都好地地，係唔知點解第4場末段後開始腳仔軟

Dioray

原帖由 henrytam 於 2011-6-13  04:50 PM 發表

你意思係熱火唔肯俾稅?
如果唔肯俾稅真係幫佢地唔到了

hard cap意思係唔會有額外條款

幾多cap就洗幾多

一億就一億

Panho17

原帖由 henrytam 於 2011-6-13  04:50 PM 發表

你意思係熱火唔肯俾稅?
如果唔肯俾稅真係幫佢地唔到了

如果行hard cap,係限制係某一個數,唔可以超出...即係你連俾稅的機會都冇

GazzaLo

原帖由 捷禾@Ajax 於 2011-6-13  03:36 PM 發表

我憎 James d 原因其實好膠

因為小弟最愛係 AI, 所以好x 憎呢d 咁o既肌肉佬係咁用 physical 屈 (中鋒身型, 小前彈跳力, pg speed)
同埋佢真係好 _ 樣衰, d 打波動作又核突
但係又要 ...

這個理由一點也不膠
頂,好心佢打football好地地就咪轉打籃球啦,須知道籃球係有走步呢回事而football是沒有的

User173

原帖由 Smithy 於 2011-6-13  04:16 PM 發表

er..其實係咪個個都仲以Jordan既style睇佢, 要下下轟30+兼take埋last shot先似樣?
我當佢Magic咁睇會好得多囉, 如果上場贏波既個triple-double實比人捧到上天
話時話係咪個個legend級既球員都有有killer instinct先 ...

其實我諗唔係個個對LBJ既評價都咁負面
大帝既歷史任務在於終結MJ時代和開創自己風格的年代

MJ掀起了搖擺人射中距離FADEAWAY的潮流, 之後四大分衛PP/KOBE/VC/TMAC打法上都基本上係MJ老翻
但自從LBJ得道之後, 搖擺人必須靠身體素質強爆成為皇道, FADEAWAY(甚至某程度上MJ式打法) 自此絕跡江湖

亦要再回帶一提, 得分型二線搖擺人在聯盟是無立足之地的 (BUTLER/R基/MAGGS/JRICH/JEFFERSON?)
爭標隊用佢地做配角都不能走得遠
現代搖擺人, 一係就主打防守, 一係就好似LBJ/MELO咁屈身體素質

Hakkinen

原帖由 Smithy 於 2011-6-13  16:16 發表

er..其實係咪個個都仲以Jordan既style睇佢, 要下下轟30+兼take埋last shot先似樣?
我當佢Magic咁睇會好得多囉, 如果上場贏波既個triple-double實比人捧到上天
話時話係咪個個legend級既球員都有有killer instinct先 ...

Jordan style? Triple Double?
而家係睇佢Game Closer 既能力, 我覺得呢方面Wade會做得好過佢, 佢連Kobe 既Lv. 都做唔到, 做咩Jordan
去到NBA Final 呢個大舞台, Q4 就係Superstar 誕生既舞台, 敢問一句LBJ 做過咩野?
以侵略性來講可以話係0分, 無論進攻/防守都太多時間睇波
對zone 剷唔到籃咪走多d screen 去製造空位, 呢幾場LBJ 就係冇個波唔識打波咁
Bosh 走Screen 去射中距離, Wade 切入籃底分個波出去, 熱火的King 就在三分線打醬油射下三分 (這些工作Miller, Bibby, House 都做到吧?)


自己打得唔順, 上兩個SERIES 射得入既三分唔再射得入, 咁就索性波都唔射, 交個波俾隊友由佢地自由發揮, 呢個係Leader/Superstar 所為?
以前MJ, Kobe, 什至今個Series 既Dirk 去到Q4 就會令到對手覺得不寒而慄, 無論之前表現幾差, Q4都可以一人之力逆天, 這就是Killer Instinct
如果呢類Superstar冇Killer Instinct可以憑咩做Legend?

Hakkinen

原帖由 henrytam 於 2011-6-13  16:55 發表

killer instinct其實都係有
就算係騎士時都試過唔少臨尾爆分殺上
今次頭3場都好地地，係唔知點解第4場末段後開始腳仔軟

上半場完都冇貨賣啦佢
切入又少 (見佢FT就知, 比平時少一半唔止), Decision-making 又差 (點解你切入籃底會將個波掉俾Juwan Howard 射而唔自己射?)
我覺得佢真係有D 驚小牛D防守....什至驚Body Contact

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Hakkinen

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop ... cquittal-for-lebron



“All the people that were rooting me on to fail, at the end of the day they have to wake up tomorrow and have the same life they had before,” James said. “They have the same personal problems they had to today. I’m going to continue to live the way I want to live and continue to do the things that I want with me and my family and be happy with that.”

Yes, James could leave in his Bentley or Rolls Royce or Maybach or whatever vehicle he chose to drive. He could, indeed, go home to his mansion where his personal chef might have a five-star meal waiting. Then off to his plush bed with 1,500-thread-count sheets. In a few days, it’ll be off on a private jet for a needed vacation.

The vast majority of those who toasted his defeat will wake up and go to work on Monday morning.

James is a multimillionaire now and he’ll still be a multimillionaire after the coming lockout ends. As a two-time MVP, he's earned it. All these things will provide him plenty of comfort while his performance is eviscerated nationally.

“They can get a few days or a few months or whatever the case may be on being happy that not only myself, but the Miami Heat not accomplishing their goal,” James said. “But they’ll have to get back to the real world at some point.”

And there’s the rub. So, too, will James. Eight years in, James is walking away from another season with no ring. In the past he could -- and did -- with his head high while quietly blame others. Last year, he got away with a series in which he failed to deliver.

Now, in the real world, there’s nowhere to hide.

女武神

原帖由 User173 於 2011-6-13  05:08 PM 發表


其實我諗唔係個個對LBJ既評價都咁負面
大帝既歷史任務在於終結MJ時代和開創自己風格的年代

MJ掀起了搖擺人射中距離FADEAWAY的潮流, 之後四大分衛PP/KOBE/VC/TMAC打法上都基本上係MJ老翻
但自從LBJ得道之後, 搖擺 ...

http://bbs.hoopchina.com/1106/2373157.html

係HC寫既一篇，岩岩提到左MJ風格帶來既...

女武神

原帖由 Hakkinen 於 2011-6-13  05:10 PM 發表

上半場完都冇貨賣啦佢
切入又少 (見佢FT就知, 比平時少一半唔止), Decision-making 又差 (點解你切入籃底會將個波掉俾Juwan Howard 射而唔自己射?)
我覺得佢真係有D 驚小牛D防守....什至驚Body Contact ...

從來LBJ都係有空位就即俾既人，結果呢幾場係過猶不及，包括今場第三節有個play佢傳開左，然後熱火連續六次有得射而唔射，俾返LBJ最後失誤
當佢打低位會有三條友圍住佢既時候，好難expect佢真係衝上去
除左單打Marion個球

即係，呢幾場打得縛手縛腳
但其實佢成個decision making(做策應,組織)都幾合理，起碼前面有個Wade會係關鍵時候做野
開壞個頭應該係Game 2連炒4球
與及成隊熱火關鍵時候真係死火

Hakkinen

原帖由 女武神 於 2011-6-13  17:30 發表


從來LBJ都係有空位就即俾既人，結果呢幾場係過猶不及，包括今場第三節有個play佢傳開左，然後熱火連續六次有得射而唔射，俾返LBJ最後失誤
當佢打低位會有三條友圍住佢既時候，好難expect佢真係衝上去
除左單打Marion個球

即 ...

我覺得佢未能夠係幾場比賽掙扎之中 try something different, 佢Q4 既消失相信熱火球員自己都好清楚, 什至去到關鍵時刻仍都唔會選擇相信佢
今場有一球快攻, Chalmbers 有LBJ 唔交而選擇自己上籃最後被回防既Chandler 封阻成功係最佳例證

與其話佢decision-making合理, 倒不如說安全比較恰當?  論今個SERIES球員為球隊所帶來既火花, WADE 絕對比LBJ 多出好幾倍

侵略性大減既LBJ 令小牛感覺到只要將個波帶離佢既控制, 佢就係一個NON-FACTOR, 或者只係一個JUMP SHOOTER
今場上半場尤其Q1 既LBJ 表現比較對板, 射波次數, 質素都可以算得上合格, 但下半場初段LBJ 有一球背籃JJ Barea  卻因為起爭而被吹罰OFF. FOUL, 之後佢變得更加保守

一場比賽, 籃球只有一個, 持球進攻既球員仍只有一個, 如果一個superstar 持球進攻既時候, 另一個superstar該做什麼? 熱火到現在對呢個問題都係無解
Talents bring you to Final, Execution bring you to Championship

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User173

原帖由 女武神 於 2011-6-13  05:26 PM 發表


http://bbs.hoopchina.com/1106/2373157.html

係HC寫既一篇，岩岩提到左MJ風格帶來既...

先LIKE

其實個人不傾向將MJ神化
在他的年代裡, MJ和大夢應該是並列的