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發表於 2011-8-25 20:32:39 | 顯示全部樓層
原帖由 橙色力量 於 2011-8-25  17:53 發表
Juan A. Gisbert / Almogàver / Koeman 4 對西甲、西乙罷工的背景分析。


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The miseries of the Spanish football

At this point, it is evident that the Spanish football is in a deep crisis. The crisis is mainly a consequence of the bad and unprofessional management of the clubs during the last couple of decades. Now the clubs and La Liga are paying the lack of financial control, the lack of seriousness to honor contracts and the poor management of the TV rights and the image of the league.

I do not know if this is the biggest problem, but definitely it is the main issue when La Liga is about to start: the strike of the football players. According to Superdeporte (Spanish), 31 out of the 32 European clubs that are under administration for a creditors meeting, a legal figure that tries to find a solution for an entity with financial and/or patrimonial problems. A usual solution is to extend the terms of the debts and reduce their amount. One of the consequences is that, legally, the players see how the contracts they signed are not valid and how their salaries are cut in order to save the club. This is a serious issue, because the players also have their own life, their personal budgets and they do not see their debts reduced at the same time.

The LFP claims that more than the 70% of the budgets of the clubs go to pay the players' salaries. While UEFA recommends to set the line around a 55-60% of the incomes, waiting for the financial fair play ruling to be implemented. It shows that the salaries offered in the Spanish football is excessive. But, since there are not administrative consequences (like relegation from professional leagues), the clubs do not think about the consequences of their offers. At this point, even the AFE (Asociación de Futbolistas Españoles, led by Luis Rubiales), in the name of the players, recognize that the situation may lead to salary cuts in the Spanish leagues, accepting that La Liga is living over their possibilities. But they want the contracts to be honored, which should be out of question. The truth is that some players, who offer themselves in auctions in the market, are also to blame for their behavior since it only causes inflation, but the reality is that our clubs must accept their reality and not to offer salaries that they can not pay. As a consequence, one of the demands of the players is the creation of a guaranteed fund for wages, as it happens in England or Germany. The clubs claim they do not have the possibility to do it now and they could only offer the financial fair play from the year 2014-2015. Too late for the players, who will not play the first Liga game after they went on strike.

At the same time, there is a possible problem of infection. If a certain club sells a player for a price, they make their budgets counting on a certain income. If the meeting of creditors cut the figures of their debts, the other clubs also start to feel the consequences of the bad management of other clubs in a chain reaction. This situation is dangerous for the possible infection of other clubs, who will start fearing unpayments, but also very unfair, since clubs like Deportivo or Almería, who are struggling to survive but still pay wages, got relegated last year, while a club like Zaragoza will stay in Primera not paying their debts. A very painful situation when you think that Zaragoza did not pay Deportivo what they owe them for the transfer of the player Lafita, just to name an example.

This discussion does not differ much from the TV and image rights management. In the 90s, the TV rights bubble started and several digital platforms offered important contracts to the clubs. Until then, all the members of the LFP negotiated their rights as a unit, but most of the clubs realized that they could get better contracts negotiating by their own. But the TV platforms already have statistics and experience and they know the real value of the TV rights of each club. While Barcelona and Real Madrid are able to get the most lucrative TV deals, the rest of the clubs see their position weakened. In the last years, this financial and economic difference has been evident on the pitch. While the 2 giants have formed super-teams, the rest of the teams can not compete with them and the ghost of the "Scottish" league is there. Now it is easy to blame the 2 giants for it, when the reality is that the mid-size clubs were the ones who chose to negotiate by themselves. Now the 2 giants have a spending structure that can not change so fast and they do not accept to go back to the previous situation. Still, the division is evident and the LFP can not find a solution for this issue. At the same time, Barcelona and Real Madrid should also take care with their position, since they are seriously risking to damage the league they are in, which may have consequences in the mid term for them.

Finally, the LFP, despite making some step forward in the management of La Liga brand, like selling the name for a sponsor or the changes in the hours of the games for the Asian market, should bet for a better and more professional management of these intangible assets. A league that has the 2 most prestigious clubs on Earth plus a good collection of clubs with tradition and image around the globe has a lot of potential, which has been unused so far. Even the Bundesliga, with less tradition than the Spanish league, is miles ahead the LFP in that sense. But it is impossible to do it while the clubs insist in giving the leadership of the organization to corrupt people like Javier Tebas or, nowadays, to Javier Astiazarán... the president who took the historical Real Sociedad to Segunda División and the creditors meeting to save the legendary Basque institution. Such a clumsy person has in his hands the destiny of La Liga, but he was chosen by the presidents of Primera and Segunda División.

Unless the owners and presidents of the clubs start to work seriously, the consequences for everyone, big or small teams, may be dramatic. The Spanish league must look for the right way to go, but I doubt that this is possible with people like Javier Astiazarán in the presidency of the league.



Posted by Juan A. Gisbert at 4:43 PM
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發表於 2011-8-25 20:36:29 | 顯示全部樓層
原帖由 Hin13 於 2011-8-25  13:35 發表

muslera條友仔踢成點?


我地唔多夠認真之下只俾到一般壓力梅斯利拉
烏拉圭國門所受考驗唔大亦真係考佢唔起
我地入佢兩粒於佢都係非戰之罪
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發表於 2011-8-25 21:28:22 | 顯示全部樓層
沙軒傷左定咩?
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發表於 2011-8-25 21:29:33 | 顯示全部樓層
Arsenal fail with Kaka loan move
as Real Madrid insist on permanent deal



Arsenal have had a loan bid rejected for Real Madrid midfielder Kaka.
Manager Arsene Wenger tried to act quickly to appease fans in the wake of Samir Nasri’s move to Manchester City, which followed Cesc Fabregas’s switch to Barcelona.
But his bid for the Brazilian former World Player of the Year on a season-long loan was dismissed.

Wenger must now decide whether to try and buy Kaka, with Real boss Jose Mourinho known to be keen to off-load him.
Real want to get his £153,000-a-week salary off the books. They will want at least £17.5million.
Signing Kaka, 29, would be a statement of intent by Wenger, although the Frenchman would be loath to spend so much on a player with little resale value.


Kaka is settled in Madrid but featured just 20 times for Real last season.
Paris Saint-Germain and Sao Paulo have also enquired.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport ... deal-Brazilian.html
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發表於 2011-8-26 00:40:09 | 顯示全部樓層
原帖由 國米~魂 於 2011-8-25  21:28 發表
沙軒傷左定咩?


傷嘛
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發表於 2011-8-26 00:44:09 | 顯示全部樓層
唔該阿仙奴俾錢買卡卡啦
做特價喎


又話阿仙奴週薪唔肯俾咁多?
唔通卡卡週薪都肯大減價?
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發表於 2011-8-26 02:39:59 | 顯示全部樓層
西甲罷工結束鳥
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發表於 2011-8-26 02:43:03 | 顯示全部樓層
Fabregas said: 'I watched it and became a bit scared when they scored and got the penalty, but I think after we saved the penalty the game became more comfortable for us and I think we played very well.

'I'm very happy for Arsenal and their fans because they deserve to be in the Champions League.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport ... .html#ixzz1W4Dqxy6Q

法比都似返個人
好過拿斯利第一日黎曼城就話因為曼城FANS 轉會...
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發表於 2011-8-26 03:54:35 | 顯示全部樓層
原帖由 ohcl 於 2011-8-26  02:43 發表
Fabregas said: 'I watched it and became a bit scared when they scored and got the penalty, but I think after we saved the penalty the game became more comfortable for us and I think we played very wel ...

Cecs 仁至義盡喇
細細個就去左阿仙奴 ,無可能無感情啦
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發表於 2011-8-26 03:57:34 | 顯示全部樓層
原帖由 小妖 於 2011-8-25  20:14 發表
柏捷高借上借, 借去華曆簡奴

原先借佢既馬體會已經同利物浦講好數 可以用某一個價錢下季買斷佢

第一次聽"借上借"

Pacheco 起 Vallecano 就無機會打正選架?都唔太想佢前途浮浮沈沈
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發表於 2011-8-26 04:04:30 | 顯示全部樓層
原帖由 ohcl 於 2011-8-26  02:43 AM 發表
Fabregas said: 'I watched it and became a bit scared when they scored and got the penalty, but I think after we saved the penalty the game became more comfortable for us and I think we played very wel ...

現在先講呢d,有乜用?
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發表於 2011-8-26 04:08:28 | 顯示全部樓層
原帖由 TAMTOM 於 2011-8-26  03:57 AM 發表

第一次聽"借上借"

Pacheco 起 Vallecano 就無機會打正選架?都唔太想佢前途浮浮沈沈


你當直接借左比華曆簡奴但比左個buy option馬體會

你地上季都吾用佢就注定佢係你地到無機會了
情況同卡路士華拿今季一樣
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發表於 2011-8-26 04:11:10 | 顯示全部樓層
原帖由 TAMTOM 於 2011-8-26  03:57 發表

第一次聽"借上借"

Pacheco 起 Vallecano 就無機會打正選架?都唔太想佢前途浮浮沈沈


可能因為馬會對丹尼爾.柏捷高確有興趣但又保證唔到今季佢會踢得夠多呱


華歷簡奴今夏引入丹尼爾.柏捷高及查索拉斯
想佢地一齊踢主力夾得掂? 還是留一人備用?
以上兩人都應該動搖唔到尼斯陀.蘇沙達主將地位
踢法而言三人行理論上還是可行的
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發表於 2011-8-26 04:16:29 | 顯示全部樓層
西維爾而家好危
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發表於 2011-8-26 04:18:56 | 顯示全部樓層
原帖由 Raul_Gonzalez 於 2011-8-26  04:11 AM 發表


可能因為馬會對丹尼爾.柏捷高確有興趣但又保證唔到今季佢會踢得夠多呱


華歷簡奴今夏引入丹尼爾.柏捷高及查索拉斯
想佢地一齊踢主力夾得掂? 還是留一人備用?
以上兩人都應該動搖唔到尼斯陀.蘇沙達主將 ...


美列達都吾用其實都吾睇好
不過留個option無壞

華歷簡奴簽埋Tamudo

[ 本帖最後由 andyjeff 於 2011-8-26  04:21 AM 編輯 ]
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發表於 2011-8-26 04:18:59 | 顯示全部樓層
原帖由 hoyte 於 2011-8-26  04:16 發表
西維爾而家好危


漢諾威隊中僅有嘅個別質素球員入西維爾波或助攻, 渣果件就擺烏龍
你地真係咁抵死?
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發表於 2011-8-26 04:22:42 | 顯示全部樓層
原帖由 andyjeff 於 2011-8-26  04:18 發表

華歷簡奴簽埋Tamudo


Rly?
華歷簡奴近年射手, 皇家馬德里青訓棄將, 左腳前鋒艾根素, 今夏離隊
十年前左右佢未被我地正式放棄, 曾經外借愛斯賓奴, 同譚梅度做過隊友
佢地今季就緣慳一面咯
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發表於 2011-8-26 04:31:28 | 顯示全部樓層
原帖由 andyjeff 於 2011-8-26  04:08 發表


你當直接借左比華曆簡奴但比左個buy option馬體會

你地上季都吾用佢就注定佢係你地到無機會了
情況同卡路士華拿今季一樣

其實我覺得佢可以做Suarez 後備架喎
不過球會唔係咁諗都無計

而家都當佢正式走左架喇 ,希望佢生性啦
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發表於 2011-8-26 04:32:26 | 顯示全部樓層
原帖由 TAMTOM 於 2011-8-26  04:31 發表

其實我覺得佢可以做Suarez 後備架喎
不過球會唔係咁諗都無計

而家都當佢正式走左架喇 ,希望佢生性啦


同上

可能佢今季立心要爭取主將足球
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 樓主| 發表於 2011-8-26 08:49:07 | 顯示全部樓層
原帖由 Raul_Gonzalez 於 2011-8-26  12:44 AM 發表
唔該阿仙奴俾錢買卡卡啦
做特價喎


又話阿仙奴週薪唔肯俾咁多?
唔通卡卡週薪都肯大減價?



李安納度想€25M 食左
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