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發表於 2012-7-18 09:52:15 | 顯示全部樓層
Report: Knicks Decide Not To Match Jeremy Lin's Offer Sheet
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發表於 2012-7-18 10:45:57 | 顯示全部樓層
http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/20 ... ld-keep-jeremy-lin/

DA覺得new york should match the contract
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發表於 2012-7-18 11:13:43 | 顯示全部樓層
本帖最後由 henrytam 於 2012-7-18 11:15 編輯
Report: Knicks Decide Not To Match Jeremy Lin's Offer Sheet
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andyjeff 發表於 2012-7-18 09:52

本來我都一直覺得林生唔留係NYK冇著數,傳媒威力都減半
但睇住呢幾日melo黨同NYK的所作所為,我寧願林生快d走
留係NYK下場應該會好慘淡,與其最後會俾佢地玩殘,不如放手去火箭一搏

trade走jefferies, 冇簽返fields, 再加上trade in felton拉攏左amare後,melo黨基本上已經控制大局
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發表於 2012-7-18 13:34:59 | 顯示全部樓層
本來我都一直覺得林生唔留係NYK冇著數,傳媒威力都減半
但睇住呢幾日melo黨同NYK的所作所為,我寧願林生快 ...
henrytam 發表於 2012-7-18 11:13

我唔係咁鐘意d 球員當正自己係皇帝咁,相比以前 sir Charles Malone, Stockton, pipped Jordan, grant hill, lee d 真係冇咩professionalism
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發表於 2012-7-18 16:50:04 | 顯示全部樓層
林書豪→火箭
Dragic→太陽
Nash→湖人
Sessions→山貓
DJ→印弟安納
Collison→小牛
Kidd→紐約

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發表於 2012-7-18 17:57:18 | 顯示全部樓層
事實是,NYK上季的PO係LIN一手挽回來的

事實是,NYK由季尾開始,已經想淡化這件事

事實是,新教練體制之下,LIN無法再瘋狂

事實是,HOUSTON幫了NYK一個大忙
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發表於 2012-7-18 18:55:26 | 顯示全部樓層
DJ→印弟安納

who is DJ?
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發表於 2012-7-18 19:58:52 | 顯示全部樓層
DJ→印弟安納

who is DJ?
熱刺#29戴維斯 發表於 2012-7-18 18:55


DJ Augustin
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發表於 2012-7-18 21:37:20 | 顯示全部樓層
事實是,NYK上季的PO係LIN一手挽回來的

事實是,NYK由季尾開始,已經想淡化這件事

事實是,新教練體制之 ...
Dioray 發表於 2012-7-18 17:57

火箭都係各取所需者,今朝之前連季票都唔敢賣

NYK現在睇返轉頭就發現唔多係路
諗諗下個4年30M都唔知係咪NYK特登吹出來......想為自己唔match漂白
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發表於 2012-7-18 21:42:44 | 顯示全部樓層
火箭都係各取所需者,今朝之前連季票都唔敢賣

NYK現在睇返轉頭就發現唔多係路
諗諗下個4年30M都唔 ...
henrytam 發表於 2012-7-18 21:37


而家睇返,當時NY力追Nash個陣應該就打算放棄Lin,如果唔係Melo應該唔會話非常驚訝Nash唔黎
之後再簽Kidd+Novak+Felton,完全就係鎖晒Lin呢5m,同埋之後幾年既薪金空間...
非常奇怪
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發表於 2012-7-18 22:33:48 | 顯示全部樓層
本帖最後由 henrytam 於 2012-7-18 22:36 編輯
而家睇返,當時NY力追Nash個陣應該就打算放棄Lin,如果唔係Melo應該唔會話非常驚訝Nash唔黎
之後再 ...
女武神 發表於 2012-7-18 21:42

簽kidd+Novak都係正路既
Kidd+Lin的話點睇都充滿賣點+希望, Novak都係上季功臣之一,價錢都合理
但Felton那單太明顯,Lin一簽左offer sheet唔夠24小時就立即trade Felton返來
根本係一早已經傾定吧?
仲要等Lin簽左offer sheet先成事,如果一早成事的話我諗Lin都識趣搵地方走吧
到時可能唔止得火箭有興趣

件事越諗越覺得好似一早舖定哂劇本咁

睇Melo黨d口氣,根本就係覺得你黃種人唔值得簽Max
Lin都爆左成個月,慘得過你NYK當年見Jerome James爆左幾場playoff就簽長約結果被恥笑????
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發表於 2012-7-18 23:25:36 | 顯示全部樓層
簽kidd+Novak都係正路既
Kidd+Lin的話點睇都充滿賣點+希望, Novak都係上季功臣之一,價錢都合理
但Felton那 ...
henrytam 發表於 2012-7-18 22:33


Melo 出番來咪無得爆LOR..
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發表於 2012-7-19 08:20:51 | 顯示全部樓層
簽kidd+Novak都係正路既
Kidd+Lin的話點睇都充滿賣點+希望, Novak都係上季功臣之一,價錢都合理
但Felton那 ...
henrytam 發表於 2012-7-18 22:33


Kidd 3年合約、Novak 4年,明明個陣係爆晒salary cap
最正既係...完全冇消息有隊搶Novak,做咩要咁急簽4年16m?

至於Melo,我傾向係佢知道管理層決定先放風出黎,佢從來都唔係一個會多口插9人既球員
而且所謂既ridiculous始終係在於NY方面黎講,而家簽左火箭,係按3年28m平均計....係NY match先會5+5+15..
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發表於 2012-7-19 09:32:19 | 顯示全部樓層
NY最失敗係而家就算冇簽lin未來3年空間照樣鎖死晒
唔通真係以為靠咁既陣容3年內打得低焱?
你既球會目標本來就係champ
o係東岸要champ自然先要打低焱
而家先黎經濟考量自以為精打細算真係on x 99
簽番都最起碼都可以比球迷做到個打低焱既願景, 正如而家快艇都比球迷覺得佢有機會打低湖人(做唔做到其次)
但你簽埋呢堆老將真係以為得可以令球迷覺得你打得低焱? 隔離街爛網o係呢點都做得好過你!
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發表於 2012-7-19 09:32:24 | 顯示全部樓層
其實只係紐約唔敢搏而已

同埋如果有心要留一早已經傾左啦...
邊駛等到而家..
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發表於 2012-7-19 09:46:50 | 顯示全部樓層
NY最失敗係而家就算冇簽lin未來3年空間照樣鎖死晒
唔通真係以為靠咁既陣容3年內打得低焱?
你既球會目標本來 ...
WainSeven 發表於 2012-7-19 09:32

NYK表示Felton比Lin強得多了
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發表於 2012-7-19 11:25:55 | 顯示全部樓層
繼續回帶,先旨聲明,我這人是很陰謀論的

LIN在換教練、主將復出後很巧合地受傷了

NYK即使有LIN都過不了首輪

NYK曾表示,即使有人開出一億合約也會匹配,現在卻因為第三年的千多萬而退卻

NYK教練高調表示LIN會是球隊首發的同時,NYK向NASH開出小中產合約,眾所周知的是,簽NASH的條件之一是首發保證

NYK願意提高薪酬給NASH,先簽後換以求得NASH來投

NYK一直沒有與LIN傾約,只是耐心地等待其他球隊開價,現在卻對LIN與HOUSTON傾合約表現出極度的不高興

NASH投湖後,NYK立即簽下了KIDD

火箭開出合約後,NYK幾乎是同時傳出簽下肥頓

NYK的隊薪曾超過一億美元,現在管理層表示不想繳付奢侈稅

有專家統計,即使2014年NYK真的要付高額稅款,在現有合約不變之下,2015年也將得到巨大的薪資空間

一切也只是一盤生意而已
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發表於 2012-7-19 11:29:19 | 顯示全部樓層
NYK是傻的嗎,不留J-Lin留Novak4年幹嘛??

Dollar to dollar, Felton真係超值wor,2.5M一年,而且Amare擺明鐘意拍佢多過J-Lin
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發表於 2012-7-21 10:29:05 | 顯示全部樓層
本帖最後由 女武神 於 2012-7-21 10:30 編輯

一篇貌似係國外引起討論既ESPN文章,分析Melo點解唔想Lin留隊...
主要係LBJ佢地帶黎既思維,同埋CAA呢間經理人公司係NBA帶黎既影響
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/i ... s-separation-family

SIX DEGREES OF SEPARATION: JEREMY LIN

Chapter 1: The family
How Linsanity disrupted Carmelo Anthony's long-term vision in New York

On Sunday in Washington, D.C., getting ready for a practice with Team USA, New York Knicks star forward Carmelo Anthony turned the Jeremy Lin conversation on its ear by calling Lin's big free-agent offer not "bold" or "aggressive" but "ridiculous."

Anthony later pulled back a bit, saying he hoped Lin would return to the Knicks, but the word "ridiculous" shifted the discourse permanently in that instant. While most of the NBA was wrestling with how to value Lin -- was he worth that much? -- Melo betrayed no such struggle: His teammate had not earned the $25.1 million contract offer the Rockets had presented him. It was hard not to infer that he didn't want the Knicks to match the offer and keep Lin.

Where did that come from? What reasons would Anthony have to be anything but supportive of Lin, a player who had thrilled Knicks fans and could help the team return to its former glory?

The reasons are much deeper than they first appear and, according to sources close to Carmelo and the Knicks, have roots in the saga of LeBron James, The Decision, Melodrama and much more.

Anthony didn't join the Knicks in 2011 to be just a player. He came to build a basketball family. Despite his messy departure from Denver, he came to New York envisioning an opportunity to create a refuge from the backstabbing and intrigue that plagues many teams. Lin, though by all accounts a great teammate, was seen as a potential threat to what Anthony was creating.

You only have to read the news to learn that those charged with helping an NBA player reach his potential -- the players' association, agents, coaches, teammates, even family and friends -- are not always especially faithful about keeping the player's best interests at heart. The multiple agendas can be conflicting and confusing, on and off the court. By the time they have been in the league a few years, most players have been ripped off or feel shortchanged by somebody or another. It's a bad feeling.

And in particular, on many teams there is very little trust among players, owners, coaches and the front office. Often, it's every man for himself, even amongst teammates.

But, right before our eyes, a lot of that is changing.

When James left Cleveland for Miami, he was protecting himself from mistrust by creating his own family of sorts. He wanted to play with Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh, longtime friends and teammates on Team USA. He found people to trust in Heat executive Pat Riley -- a much-admired figure among NBA stars -- and in Riley's protégé, Heat coach Erik Spoelstra. And with Riley and Heat owner Micky Arison as the patriarchs of a small front office, and former Miami stars keeping close ties to the team, the Heat had already created the kind of family atmosphere that appealed to LeBron.

The Heat's three stars and head coach are all represented by Creative Artists Agency, home of William Wesley and Leon Rose. CAA's basketball operation often is discussed in conspiratorial tones, as if something sinister and devious is happening.

But, among players, CAA more commonly is prized for representing the opposite of that. For many, it is a reprieve from the mistrust endemic to the game. It's something like an extended family of players and coaches and others who look out for each other. James, Wade, Bosh, Anthony, Chris Paul, Tom Thibodeau, Rich Cho, Mike Dunlap, John Calipari ... CAA's basketball client list is impressive and growing.

The Heat stars astounded league insiders by agreeing to play for less than they could have made elsewhere. For months, many swore it could never happen because almost every player in a similar position has taken the maximum amount he could.

But the SuperFriends agreed among themselves to take less -- and even left some money on the table for other teammates -- building on years of trust they had created. (In fact, even detractors understood that this unique trio would not have come together without first creating months and years of mutual trust.) In the face of unprecedented criticism, that trust became their sanctuary, a way to play with less ego, less crap and more real team spirit. The result: an NBA title.

Among those looking on most eagerly were Anthony and Paul, who had issues with their previous teams and agents. Both joined CAA when they liked what they saw in the way James, Wade and Bosh came together. And now, with varying degrees of success, both have become committed to the idea of creating similar environments of their own.

In his 17 months in New York, Anthony -- while still a lightning rod of controversy, sometimes accused of being a ballhog who is tough to play with -- has made some progress in that regard. His relationship with owner James Dolan, coach Mike Woodson and the Knicks front office is said to be splendid. When Anthony had a beef with coach Mike D'Antoni, who never was destined to be part of the family, ownership stuck with the player. When D'Antoni reportedly asked management to consider trading Anthony for Deron Williams, the Knicks refused and D'Antoni departed. Woodson, at first considered just a short-term interim coach, signed with CAA and, in short order, took over as head coach.

And in the offices of the Knicks, CAA is a significant force, even beyond clients Anthony, Woodson and Knicks guard J.R. Smith. CAA's William Wesley is known to be close to Dolan, and the agency also represents Madison Square Garden itself and at least two members of the Knicks' front office, Allan Houston and Mark Warkentien.

Most tellingly, perhaps, Isiah Thomas is close to Dolan, Wesley, Grunwald, Woodson and others with the Knicks, according to sources. The former Knicks president and coach is still a very influential voice in Dolan's ear, and those behind the scenes say he is lukewarm toward Lin.

Still, despite so many people pulling in the same direction, the Knicks have not been a perfect picture. Not only has the franchise been dogged by the Knicks constants of high salaries, questionable decisions and mediocre results, but they've also suffered from injuries and an increasingly restless fan base.

Into the middle of all that, while Anthony was out with an injury last winter, stepped Jeremy Lin. From Anthony's point of view, according to sources with firsthand knowledge of his thinking, the Lin phenomenon made little sense. To his thinking, Lin had a few good games, the team surprised everyone with a little winning streak ... and then everybody went bananas.

Anthony had already gone all-in for the long haul, attempting to paint a multiyear Knicks masterpiece that would make New York proud. He saw himself as the selfless leader, expanding his game, recruiting teammates and creating something that would leave a real imprint on the city.

Linsanity didn't fit the blueprint. For a superstar of Anthony's caliber, it didn't make sense that a backup point guard who turned the ball over a lot, didn't mesh especially well with Melo's talents, played Hero Ball in crunch time, hit some lucky shots and couldn't sustain more than a few weeks without injuring himself had become the city's folk hero.

Furthermore, the entire experience resonated differently for different people, sometimes dividing observers along cultural and racial lines. This was especially true among fans but also seemed at times to be the case in NBA circles.

The "family" concept is about unity more than race, and there is no suggestion Anthony is racist in any way. It's said that the Knicks players, Anthony included, liked and accepted Lin. In fact, Anthony was among those who met with Lin shortly before the free agency period, as reported by Chris Broussard.

But it is an accepted plank of the "family" platform that it's an opportunity for young black men to shoulder responsibility and become the real decision-makers and power brokers in a multibillion-dollar business built on their backs. In a world where the big decisions have so often been the province of older white men, and where players have often felt exploited, the new model is thrilling and precious for those who get to experience it.

In that context, the way the world embraced Lin raised the question: What does an African-American player have to do to be so beloved so quickly and passionately? Could it ever happen?

Before Lin emerged, it was easy for Anthony to believe New York loved him. But Linsanity made it seem clear that New York had been holding back all along.

Meanwhile, for one crucial stretch in February, the Knicks were winning more than they ever had won with Anthony in uniform. This further rattled Anthony's vision for a happy Big Apple home and a starring role for himself. It simply didn't seem right that Lin would have more of the spotlight than he did.

Where there was meant to be total team harmony, there was more of the same ol' same ol' worrying about shots, wondering who management really cared about more and, as of this month, debating about money.

Earlier this week, before Lin's departure was official, and after saying, "It's up to the organization to say [if] they want to match that ridiculous contract that's out there," Anthony said he would welcome Lin back. But even if that's taken at face value, Linsanity interfered with Anthony's long-term vision for the Knicks franchise.

Melo's ideal might never be realized, but it comes with the backing of CAA, the admiration of other NBA superstars and good will around the league. And, while Anthony is in New York, those might be the most valuable Knicks assets of all.
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發表於 2012-7-21 17:50:15 | 顯示全部樓層
一篇貌似係國外引起討論既ESPN文章,分析Melo點解唔想Lin留隊...
主要係LBJ佢地帶黎既思維,同埋CAA呢間經 ...
女武神 發表於 2012-7-21 10:29

呢篇我星期五已經睇左了
6大篇雞腸

即管睇下我提過的LBJ effect係咪真係真有其事
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