假野調查組! #2

montolivo

我係新會員,睇番好多post, 發覺有唔少post都係由lkw1819,P-BB同piate911一起詢問賣家的.你們真的很團結.

其實有好多野都可以避免,你話係唔係match worn都唔到你講啦,人地儲左咁多年波衫,你睇佢d collection就知啦,9成9都係正野,多數唔係match issued就係match worn,佢賣既係真貨咪得lo.

仲有,呢度係'''假野調查區''',佢件衫係真既就唔好為左d title好似錯,但件衫真既係度嘈,咁樣都係浪費大家時間.

而且,ebay大量賣家都係咁做,你不如個個賣家,件件都調查下佢啦.但係你地都証明唔到你地有幾高既公信力,例如係咪大量match shirts 收藏家,又或者研究左球衣好耐,出哂名咁. 只係係度質疑,質疑完又唔係買佢d野,就算你覺得可以幫助到呢度d朋友分辨下,但係可能最後買個位買家都未必黎呢度啦,你打左出黎,比你証明係假又點?

想講既係,其實好似我呢d做買家既,賣家話match worn,我會無咁care lo,總之件野係我想要既真貨,真係專for球員既衫,我唔會理佢係唔係match worn/issued,我買番黎都係想支持下隊波,仲有都想扮扮球員姐^.^....

唸唸下覺得kin仲蝕左,有d買家會唔鐘意match worn 架,因為dirty 嘛,成陣味.就算洗左, d印字都係無新咁靚.所以我都係比較傾向買match issued多d,新d嘛.不過你d衫真係好堅....

係講咁多.

kin

原帖由 pirates911 於 2008-7-14  10:57 AM 發表
問下知唔知咩叫MATCH WORN有咩問題
同問下人知唔知咩叫CODE7....知唔知曼聯踢咩聯賽差唔多JE
知咪答唔知咪請教LOR....同態度有咩關係....
就算有人覺得你呃人....你都唔洗咁燥GA....
搞到好似比 ...

你講野唔使含沙射影，既然有人話我態度有問題又呃人，咁我當然要提出番證據比大家睇下呢位挑剔我的人做過的乜。比人屈唔燥唔出聲都可以比你話做咩唔回應，搞到好似比人講中。你有心的話點講都得，系唔系

pirates911

okok...i better shut up and i have no interest in this boring dispute.....
if i done anything hurt you i say sorry but i dont want to be so silly that talking about sth that is not so related to me
and also i did not intend to imply anything plx dun try to say such things like含沙射影
dun be so suspicious man

[ 本帖最後由 pirates911 於 2008-7-14  12:57 PM 編輯 ]

stepbystep

原帖由 70869413 於 2008-7-14  12:05 PM 發表

I always thought match worn means worn by player during a football match. I am not aware of any other definition...?

okay then in what kind of match worn shirt describtion you will trust the seller?

like what?  "my shirt is worn by XXXXXX player in XXXXXXX match in the day XX-XX-XXXX?"

dare to tell me?  dude, face the reality man!

kin

原帖由 lkw1819 於 2008-7-14  12:15 PM 發表



請回答:件衫到底有無比果位球員著黎踢過比賽?

我相信件衫系為VIERI落場踢波而準備

70869413

原帖由 stepbystep 於 2008-7-14  12:55 PM 發表
okay then in what kind of match worn shirt describtion you will trust the seller?

like what?  "my shirt is worn by XXXXXX player in XXXXXXX match in the day XX-XX-XXXX?"

dare to tell me?  dude,  ...

Once again i don't care the seller can be trusted or not.
I just want to point out, it is ambiguous to say "意大利國際米蘭04歐冠球員版match worn VIERI ac milan italy juventus lazio"
Is it "球員版" or "match worn"?
It is just as confusing as if the seller says "英格蘭長袖 short sleeves"......

[ 本帖最後由 70869413 於 2008-7-14  01:18 PM 編輯 ]

pirates911

原帖由 montolivo 於 2008-7-14  12:40 PM 發表
我係新會員,睇番好多post, 發覺有唔少post都係由lkw1819,P-BB同piate911一起詢問賣家的.你們真的很團結.

其實有好多野都可以避免,你話係唔係match worn都唔到你講啦,人地儲左咁多年波衫,你睇佢d collection就知啦,9 ...

ok i accept your pts but sth that i really want to tell you
this is a forum and i just want to discuss with the fellow members peacefully
i posted sth here and the others relied my post or not is not my business
if you think that we three are so united oh thank you but we are aimed at discussing sth about jerseys peacefully
ya you are new okok.....then you better know about our objectives before you conclude that we are so unite
plx note that i just want to discuss with members peacefully and i have good intention
i dun want to argue with anyone.....

[ 本帖最後由 pirates911 於 2008-7-14  01:08 PM 編輯 ]

P-BB

it's not the matter of united to judge a specific case at all, but once someone brought a discussion in this section, everyone is welcomed to stand their own side of view.

"而且,ebay大量賣家都係咁做,你不如個個賣家,件件都調查下佢啦."
u are welcomed to bring any URL here for everyone to dicuss.

"但係你地都証明唔到你地有幾高既公信力,例如係咪大量match shirts 收藏家,又或者研究左球衣好耐,出哂名咁. 只係係度質疑,質疑完又唔係買佢d野,就算你覺得可以幫助到呢度d朋友分辨下,但係可能最後買個位買家都未必黎呢度啦,你打左出黎,比你証明係假又點?"
even if a collector here is as well known to be interviewed by a newspaper, that doesn't mean that he has 公信力. so, 你信就信, 唔信就don't read our comments.
and our starting point is always trying to help fellow board members here. at least that is the best what we can do.

let's stop wasting our time. as long as everyone knows from now on: when u see a title that looks like this: "Team Name Player Name MATCHWORN/MATCH ISSUED/CODE 7 shirt..."
make sure u read the item description carefully because it might/might not be a real player matchworn shirt which was used in a real pro game.

that's all i can say. peace.

[ 本帖最後由 P-BB 於 2008-7-14  02:31 PM 編輯 ]

梁寬

http://cgi.ebay.com.hk/ws/eBayIS ... eName=WDVW&rd=1

請問係咪真野??thx

奧古

其實大家點解噤中意開多個account出黎講野?
我想講呢個forum係唔希望會員同時擁有兩個account的.....

by行政版主

lkw1819

原帖由 kin 於 2008-7-14  12:58 PM 發表

我相信件衫系為VIERI落場踢波而準備

咁即係唔係worn啦下話
你果d充其量可以叫Match Issued,絕不能叫做match worn

lkw1819

原帖由 montolivo 於 2008-7-14  12:40 PM 發表
我係新會員,睇番好多post, 發覺有唔少post都係由lkw1819,P-BB同piate911一起詢問賣家的.你們真的很團結.

其實有好多野都可以避免,你話係唔係match worn都唔到你講啦,人地儲左咁多年波衫,你睇佢d collection就知啦,9 ...

Goodest point 1:你話係唔係match worn都唔到你講啦
               pt2:佢件衫係真既就唔好為左d title好似錯,但件衫真既係度嘈,咁樣都係浪費大家時間.
              pt3:但係你地都証明唔到你地有幾高既公信力,例如係咪大量match shirts 收藏家,又或者研究左球衣好耐,出哂名咁. 只係係度質疑,質疑完又唔係買佢d野,就算你覺得可以幫助到呢度d朋友分辨下,但係可能最後買個位買家都未必黎呢度啦,你打左出黎,比你証明係假又點?
              pt4:你睇佢d collection就知啦,9成9都係正野,多數唔係match issued就係match worn

全部論點都異常荒謬

唔到我地講,重有邊個講?
如果係浪費到你時間,我同你講一句sorry,不過你有權可以唔睇,但係你無權去阻止我地discuss
証明唔到我地有幾高既公信力咁又點?
事實放在眼前,唔洗咩公信力去support
"只係係度質疑,質疑完又唔係買佢d野",so?有咩問題?
你係唔係會買哂自己每一件質疑完,證明左係真野嘅貨品?

"人地儲左咁多年波衫,你睇佢d collection就知啦,9成9都係正野,多數唔係match issued就係match worn"
照你咁講,皇仁應屆會考生是難得的好人都睇怕係鐵一般嘅事實啦

"就算你覺得可以幫助到呢度d朋友分辨下,但係可能最後買個位買家都未必黎呢度啦,你打左出黎,比你証明係假又點?"

呢一句唔洗我多講,大家自己心照

[ 本帖最後由 lkw1819 於 2008-7-14  07:37 PM 編輯 ]

stepbystep

原帖由 70869413 於 2008-7-14  01:04 PM 發表

Once again i don't care the seller can be trusted or not.
I just want to point out, it is ambiguous to say "意大利國際米蘭04歐冠球員版match worn VIERI ac milan italy juventus lazio"
Is it "球員版" or ...

"球員版" can't be "match worn" ?  咁唔通match worn球迷版?
我唔覺得o個一個係一個好明確既問題囉!

[ 本帖最後由 stepbystep 於 2008-7-14  08:11 PM 編輯 ]

stepbystep

原帖由 梁寬 於 2008-7-14  05:11 PM 發表
http://cgi.ebay.com.hk/ws/eBayIS ... eName=WDVW&rd=1

請問係咪真野??thx

衫係真, 字好難講, 同埋件衫係replica!

70869413

原帖由 stepbystep 於 2008-7-14  08:09 PM 發表
"球員版" can't be "match worn" ?  咁唔通match worn球迷版?
我唔覺得o個一個係一個好明確既問題囉!

I think the correct term for "球員版" should "player version"

Of course "球員版" can be "match worn"
but "球員版" does not equal "match worn"

Also how do you explain "意大利國際米蘭" can be "ac milan italy juventus lazio"?

[ 本帖最後由 70869413 於 2008-7-14  09:49 PM 編輯 ]

timo

講咁多都無用
球員都係得果一個
有冇咁多matchworn shirt買果個自己判斷一下吧

kin

原帖由 lkw1819 於 2008-7-14  07:16 PM 發表


咁即係唔係worn啦下話
你果d充其量可以叫Match Issued,絕不能叫做match worn

已你的要求，要證明球員親身著過，又要球會COA,我無法100%肯定球員著過
不過我相信賣家的來源同憑我自己對波衫的認識去判決match worn 的機會好大。

kin

原帖由 70869413 於 2008-7-14  08:47 PM 發表

I think the correct term for "球員版" should "player version"

Of course "球員版" can be "match worn"
but "球員版" does not equal "match worn"

Also how do you explain "意大利國際米蘭" can be "ac mil ...

請你細心留意會發覺我系後面加上去的球會系Vieri曾經效力的球隊，相信鐘意Vieri又收集球衣的人無論佢效力邊隊都可能會買，我都系想我賣的衫容易比人搵到，yahoo有限制牌子唔可以有兩個，但無限制球會名，所以我唔覺問題幾大，我有提供清晰相比買家分析真假，絕無任何呃人的成份

stepbystep

原帖由 70869413 於 2008-7-14  08:47 PM 發表

I think the correct term for "球員版" should "player version"

Of course "球員版" can be "match worn"
but "球員版" does not equal "match worn"

Also how do you explain "意大利國際米蘭" can be "ac mil ...

你知唔知自己問緊咩傢?  你問下自己先啦!
球員版可以係match worn, 但inter milan就緊係唔可以係ac milan etc.啦! 都唔知你想問咩, 9唔搭8.

kin

原帖由 timo 於 2008-7-14  09:20 PM 發表
講咁多都無用
球員都係得果一個
有冇咁多matchworn shirt買果個自己判斷一下吧

無錯，我絕唔會買熱門隊的match worn or issue，真系唔容易分