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NBA PLAYOFF 2011

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原帖由 Panho17 於 2011-5-11  11:04 AM 發表
起碼要嘗試吧...
無限懷念Jeff Green

Green打4號位又會有其他問題....

不過我都認同西寶個腦都係有待發展
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發表於 2011-5-11 11:23:41 | 顯示全部樓層
原帖由 henrytam 於 2011-5-11  11:01 AM 發表

望下芬達個陣,根本得佢+KD+Harden搶分
只能交俾2個人

IBaka同 Perkins ok啦, 餵到叉燒波埋去都叫識得食
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發表於 2011-5-11 11:52:35 | 顯示全部樓層
咁Josh Smith 嘅腦殘程度呢?
頭兩場對公牛,15ft開外的中距離12球全炒,第三場會主場,一射中距離又比知己球迷噓,都仲係咁射,當然全炒

咁啱見到ESPN Hollinger 有篇 “Decision-making of Smith, Westbrook”, 有冇insider??
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發表於 2011-5-11 12:32:50 | 顯示全部樓層
原帖由 GazzaLo 於 2011-5-11  11:52 AM 發表
咁Josh Smith 嘅腦殘程度呢?
頭兩場對公牛,15ft開外的中距離12球全炒,第三場會主場,一射中距離又比知己球迷噓,都仲係咁射,當然全炒

咁啱見到ESPN Hollinger 有篇 “Decision-making of Smith, Westbrook”, 有冇in ...


Updated: May 10, 2011, 3:02 PM ET
Decision-making of Smith, Westbrook
OKC-MEM, ATL-CHI may be decided by Westbrook, Smith (PER Diem: May 10, 2011)

Heading into the home stretch of the second round, we still have two series that are in genuine doubt, tied at two games apiece.

And in each, we have a polarizing player whose decisions have become a focal point for fans and analysts alike.

In the East, Atlanta and Chicago are all square heading into Tuesday's Game 5 in Chicago, owing in equal parts to a brilliant Game 4 from Josh Smith and brutal Game 2 from Josh Smith.

And out West, Oklahoma City and Memphis evened up after Russell Westbrook scored 40 points in the Game 4 triple-overtime thriller ... and after his choices made him a target for the Thunder's offensive meltdown at the end of the previous game.

In both cases, the two players seem to be battling themselves as much as the opponent. For years, Atlanta's coaches have pushed Smith to stop settling for jumpers and use his athleticism to attack the rim, while Westbrook's decision-making -- and in particular his willingness to call his own number -- has made him a lightning rod for criticism.

So let's look at what's really happening with each.

In Smith's case, it's one shot in particular that has made him a target -- the catch-and-shoot mid-range J that he oh-so-slowly lofts toward the rim while the locals groan in anticipation of a brick. Those of you new to Hawks basketball should know that has been going on for a couple of years now, and the crowd's groans are nothing compared to those of the coaching staff.

By now most people have seen that Smith is 1-for-the-series on jump shots (he made his first one in Game 4), but that wasn't what happened in the regular season. In fact, Smith threw a new wrinkle into the debate this year by actually making enough jump shots to make it a non-terrible choice in the right situations.

Unfortunately, he doesn't seem to know when those are. When Smith shoots and there's only a couple seconds left on the shot clock, that's an appropriate choice. When there's 18 on the shot clock, however, it's a much more questionable decision.

Smith shot 39 percent on long 2s this season according to hoopdata.com, which is significantly better than he's done historically and not far off the league average of 40 percent ... but also significantly worse than he shoots near the basket (68.9 percent). Smith also took two 3-point tries per game and converted only 33.1 percent. As this season wore on, smart Atlanta fans began to realize that the increased success on jumpers was only encouraging him -- ultimately, to his and the team's detriment. Ergo, the groaning as he winds up.

Overall, he averaged long six jump shots a game, and only 4.4 shots at the rim. Even doing so, he was a pretty good player, but the frustration is that he could be so much better. This is especially true going against a slower and turf-toe hobbled Carlos Boozer. In Game 4, when he took 16 shots in the paint and only six from distance, he owned the second half.

Yet the real loss is not in what he can create for himself, but in what he can do for others. Smith is a far better passer than most acknowledge; when he's attacking, Game 4 showed what kind of an all-weather force he can be. Smith's True Shooting Percentage this season has hardly budged even as he's taken more jumpers, but his Assist Rate fell sharply. (The TS% is also a bit misleading -- a big chunk of the reason it's unchanged is that his free throw percentage improved dramatically, which has little to do with his shot selection.)

Along the same lines, it's why it was so disappointing to see Smith backslide in this department under Larry Drew. Under Mike Woodson in 2009-10, Smith took 3.0 long jump shots per game and 6.7 shots at the rim, plus he had essentially abandoned taking 3-pointers, trying only seven all of last season. Not coincidentally, he set career highs in shooting percentage and PER.

Although he criticized Smith in the press after Game 3, Drew has generally given Smith a longer leash than Woodson did on shooting jumpers. Smith has used it to strangle himself at several junctures.

Thus, heading into Game 5, one can only wonder which Smith will show up -- the aggressive, attacking one that destroyed Boozer in Game 4, or the meek jump shooter that showed up for the first two games?

For Westbrook, it's a more complicated debate. He can create his own shot at any time and generally can create pretty decent ones. Although he's not a great outside shooter, at the end of the shot clock, his ability to rise up and reliability get a clean look is valuable.

The "complicated" part comes because he plays with the league's most potent scoring weapon in Kevin Durant. Westbrook's Usage Rate was higher than Durant's this season, which on the face of it appears ridiculous, because Durant was so vastly more efficient with his shots. Durant's TS% was 58.9, while Westbrook's was just 53.8, a shade below the league average of 54.1.

Additionally, there's the undeniable fact that Westbrook's decisions are often less than optimal. This has become particularly apparent in two of the Thunder's three playoff losses -- a close loss in Denver in Game 4 of the first round, and the overtime loss to Memphis in Game 3. In both instances, Westbrook's imperfect instincts at the point guard position led to some questionable shot-pass decisions.

And this is where the Thunder's basketball people all chime in and say: Whoa. Wait a minute.

Westbrook is 22. He had hardly played point guard before coming to the NBA. He is not a natural at the spot by any means but, compared to where he was two years ago, he's improved his decisions by leaps and bounds. And -- especially when James Harden isn't in the game -- he has to make virtually every decision on every trip. As Thunder coach Scott Brooks pointed out after Tuesday night's game, the point guard and the coach become magnets for criticism when the offense fails, and that's particularly true when so much of it is in Westbrook's hands.

Another aspect that gets far too little attention, and has really become apparent to me in the two rounds I've spent covering the Thunder in these playoffs, is how frequently plays called for Durant break down. In those situations, Westbrook is basically forced to improvise a shot -- sometimes a poor one -- because he's often the only other Oklahoma City player on the floor who can reliably generate a halfway-decent look.

Despite all that, there's an unquestionable tension in his game, a fight between the yin of aggressively using his athleticism to take over the games and the yang of getting the rock to Durant. I've seen him try to take over games that Durant had already taken over. I've also seen him tilt too far the other way (though admittedly less often), and ignore a promising matchup because he's trying so hard to be a "true" point guard.

Either way, he can't win. Not unless Durant takes 65 shots and Westbrook plays like assistant coach Mo Cheeks, which has no chance of ever happening.

But because he controls so much of the action, he can be the driving force behind victory, as he was in Game 4 (check out the superb baseline drive-and-kick for a Harden 3 at the end of the second overtime; Westbrook scored or assisted on all 10 Oklahoma City points in that stanza), or a major impediment to it, as he was at the end of Game 3.

And in that sense, he and Smith are the focal points in the upcoming Game 5s. Each has enough ability to win the game single-handedly for his team ... and each is capable of enough spotty decisions to lose it. The next 48 hours are so interesting precisely because we're so genuinely curious as to which of the two alterative outcomes will prevail.
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發表於 2011-5-11 15:02:20 | 顯示全部樓層

回復 504# 女武神 的帖子

Thanks.
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發表於 2011-5-11 15:53:26 | 顯示全部樓層
原帖由 Panho17 於 2011-5-11  11:04 AM 發表


起碼要嘗試吧...
無限懷念Jeff Green


對Jeff Green離開沒有遺憾
佢臨離開前已經覺佢進攻能力見頂/進入樽頸
防守能力又高不成低不就
佢走左後正式解放Harden同做就Ibaka開發中距離跳投
依家問題在於Scott Brooks既set play 同Durant爭取跳投空間既能力同埋積極性
Westbrook個腦我相信Mo Cheeks可以成功開發
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發表於 2011-5-11 16:30:00 | 顯示全部樓層
原帖由 奇連士文再生 於 2011-5-11  03:53 PM 發表


對Jeff Green離開沒有遺憾
佢臨離開前已經覺佢進攻能力見頂/進入樽頸
防守能力又高不成低不就
佢走左後正式解放Harden同做就Ibaka開發中距離跳投
依家問題在於Scott Brooks既set play 同Durant爭取跳投空間既能力 ...


其實留番Green做後備火力係唔錯的...但係Brooks死都要放佢打正選pf令我有點不解...
Harden上位做二弟更好,Ibaka練埋剷籃仲正
的確睇左幾場playoff,覺得雷霆d波其實幾悶...班內線做單擋質素都唔太好,經常完全擋唔到人
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發表於 2011-5-11 18:29:45 | 顯示全部樓層
原帖由 Panho17 於 2011-5-11  04:30 PM 發表


其實留番Green做後備火力係唔錯的...但係Brooks死都要放佢打正選pf令我有點不解...
Harden上位做二弟更好,Ibaka練埋剷籃仲正
的確睇左幾場playoff,覺得雷霆d波其實幾悶...班內線做單擋質素都 ...


Green同Hraden太重疊...如果一齊打後備既話
若果Hraden打正選,會搶Westbrook球權兼搶KD catch and shoot,可能得不償失
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發表於 2011-5-11 19:23:54 | 顯示全部樓層
原帖由 女武神 於 2011-5-11  06:29 PM 發表


Green同Hraden太重疊...如果一齊打後備既話
若果Hraden打正選,會搶Westbrook球權兼搶KD catch and shoot,可能得不償失


場上有2個得分點唔算多吧...而且Green有小小背籃攻...:
Westbrook就係需要調教(打壓?)一下, 哈登球商好似唔錯,分多D球權,試下效果冇壞(當然唔係而家,係下季開始)

其實我唔係雷霆同Green fans...只係睇雷霆打成場波,背籃攻出現次數唔超過5次先記起Green
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發表於 2011-5-11 20:57:04 | 顯示全部樓層
原帖由 Panho17 於 2011-5-11  19:23 發表


場上有2個得分點唔算多吧...而且Green有小小背籃攻...:
Westbrook就係需要調教(打壓?)一下, 哈登球商好似唔錯,分多D球權,試下效果冇壞(當然唔係而家,係下季開始)

其實我唔係雷霆同Green fans...只係睇 ...

救火隊一個就夠啦
因為戰術執行會比較易,一個目標去搞
green未走前內線其實唔太夠人用
太早拎晒d高佬出黎係佢地技巧/經驗不足時可能拖垮球隊

其實westbrooks我覺得可以向大射既方向去開發
當然而家芬達係聯盟入面助攻同3分進攻比例後段班球隊,呢2點必要改善
harden同斯科路沙如果有更穩定既外投就好了
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發表於 2011-5-12 09:56:07 | 顯示全部樓層
Robert Tractor Traylor dies


RIP...當年起始了小牛大業
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發表於 2011-5-12 10:41:52 | 顯示全部樓層
原帖由 User173 於 2011-5-12  09:56 AM 發表
Robert Tractor Traylor dies


RIP...當年起始了小牛大業


吓﹗唔係掛

少數曾經拉爆籃板的球員

肥得黎技術都幾好
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發表於 2011-5-12 11:13:45 | 顯示全部樓層
Wade 34+LBJ 33送走Celtics
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發表於 2011-5-12 11:28:32 | 顯示全部樓層
原帖由 Smithy 於 2011-5-12  11:13 AM 發表
Wade 34+LBJ 33送走Celtics


NBA新一代雄起了

老一輩的代表,包括高比、鄧肯、奧鯊、KG、Ray Gun…都在今年退下了

最後會是盛放玫瑰決戰雷神?三巨頭硬吃爛豆腐?還是三巨神決戰雷神的神話戰役?
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發表於 2011-5-12 11:49:39 | 顯示全部樓層
原帖由 Dioray 於 2011-5-12  11:28 AM 發表


NBA新一代雄起了

老一輩的代表,包括高比、鄧肯、奧鯊、KG、Ray Gun…都在今年退下了

最後會是盛放玫瑰決戰雷神?三巨頭硬吃爛豆腐?還是三巨神決戰雷神的神話戰役? ...


老輩球星一夜白頭, 新舊一年之內全數交接, NBA歷史上發生過兩次
第1次係1979/80球季, 大鳥同魔術手橫空出世, 立即終結了子彈/超音速等工兵型球隊的壟斷
第2次1998/99球季, MJ退役鄧肯.KG.AI.CWEBB出頭, 諸如馬龍大夢巴克利終治聯盟的年代亦正立即閉幕 (即使海軍上將及猩猩亦是該季始走下坡)

希望諾域斯基可以黎一次最後輝煌, 一洗06賽季之冤
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發表於 2011-5-12 11:52:01 | 顯示全部樓層
原帖由 User173 於 2011-5-12  11:49 AM 發表


老輩球星一夜白頭, 新舊一年之內全數交接, NBA歷史上發生過兩次
第1次係1979/80球季, 大鳥同魔術手橫空出世, 立即終結了子彈/超音速等工兵型球隊的壟斷
第2次1998/99球季, MJ退役鄧肯.KG.AI.CWEBB出頭, 諸如馬龍大 ...

得返司機同神奇小子
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超級巨星
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原帖由 User173 於 2011-5-12  11:49 AM 發表


老輩球星一夜白頭, 新舊一年之內全數交接, NBA歷史上發生過兩次
第1次係1979/80球季, 大鳥同魔術手橫空出世, 立即終結了子彈/超音速等工兵型球隊的壟斷
第2次1998/99球季, MJ退役鄧肯.KG.AI.CWEBB出頭, 諸如馬龍大 ...


我份人好陰謀論

始終堅持,庳班一日係馬仔老闆,馬仔都唔洗諗冠軍
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發表於 2011-5-12 15:28:39 | 顯示全部樓層
一想到焱隊第一年就冠軍

就無興趣再睇nba…
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發表於 2011-5-12 17:41:01 | 顯示全部樓層
原帖由 Dioray 於 2011-5-12  12:32 PM 發表


我份人好陰謀論

始終堅持,庳班一日係馬仔老闆,馬仔都唔洗諗冠軍


我唔想睇痰睇足6年

就算尼克自行組裝到 CP3-MELO-STAT, 呢三位可能每一件都廢過痰火果3巨頭
超級人+CP3+ (BRYANT?)又太萬惡FEEL
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